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https://www.bbc.com/news/war-in-ukraine
So happy to see Ukraine put up with Russians, they exceeded my wildest expectations.
But with Western support wearing thin, delay in US Aid, EU also hesitant to support Ukraine, especially with right wing nuts like Hungary's Orban, and Putin's Attrition warfare strategy, things are looking less and less optimistic for Ukraine.
I just wish someone in Moscow would uprise and replace Putin and restore some form of Democracy in Russian.
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It may be bad enough that if they "walk away" with only losing a large chunk of the eastern part of their country and be neutered in a lot of international relations, that may the best they can get. I hope not, but it's not looking good.
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Guerrilla warfare will takes its toll on the Russians.
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https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-solovy...ar-1901936
And they won't stop in Ukraine:
Vladimir Solovyov, a Russian propagandist and ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, vowed that two capital cities in member countries of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) "will also be ours."
Solovyov added: "Whose is it? Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities. Take the old lady back to her Motherland. The Ukronazis came here...I think that in another five minutes, Warsaw and Helsinki will also be ours, Russian. And historically, it's all true."
No wonder Finland finally decided to join NATO. The threat is real. Europe is happy to use Ukraine for their growing season and pipelines, but becoming a member of NATO? Putin knows which side of the bread is buttered, that's for sure.
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Poland and Finland? I would think they would go after the 3 Baltic countries first.
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special wrote:
Poland and Finland? I would think they would go after the 3 Baltic countries first.
I'm certainly no expert, but I think overtaking the Baltic states doesn't really give them much advantage. Getting Poland and Finland squeezes the Baltic states into a vice to be dealt with sooner or later, and more importantly Russian ends up adjacent to NATO countries.
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Ukraine is crippling the Russian refineries. They’ve shut down gas exports etc.
China is the only way Russia is really surviving. And India.
But if India no longer gets cheap gas, they will walk away.
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Given Putin's border-centric incremental approach of the last 10-15 years, I'd be most nervous for Lithuania. Invading with "just the tip" to reconnect Kaliningrad to the Mother [F'ing] Land via their Belarus client state. A chunk if not all of Lithuania might be bargained away in this scenario or other saber-rattling sessions if someone like Trump were making the call to "keep the profits um, I mean peace."
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$tevie wrote:
[quote=special]
Poland and Finland? I would think they would go after the 3 Baltic countries first.
I'm certainly no expert, but I think overtaking the Baltic states doesn't really give them much advantage. Getting Poland and Finland squeezes the Baltic states into a vice to be dealt with sooner or later, and more importantly Russian ends up adjacent to NATO countries.
I'd like to see Russia try to touch a Baltic state. It would accelerate Putin's absolute demise. I'm not the anti-war guy everybody else is. Russia is losing hundreds of troops a day now. That would turn in thousands overnight. Russians would quickly get rid of Putin themselves.
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vision63 wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
[quote=special]
Poland and Finland? I would think they would go after the 3 Baltic countries first.
I'm certainly no expert, but I think overtaking the Baltic states doesn't really give them much advantage. Getting Poland and Finland squeezes the Baltic states into a vice to be dealt with sooner or later, and more importantly Russian ends up adjacent to NATO countries.
I'd like to see Russia try to touch a Baltic state. It would accelerate Putin's absolute demise. I'm not the anti-war guy everybody else is. Russia is losing hundreds of troops a day now. That would turn in thousands overnight. Russians would quickly get rid of Putin themselves.
Yeah, I think this is mostly bluster. Knock off Ukraine and then use the fear to get "the West" to leverage whatever concessions he can and then lay low and prepare conditions for the next taking back of whatever historical era of the mother nation his imperialistic impulses leads him. After a bruising war with Ukraine, even if he "wins", I don't think he will want to try to take on NATO for a bit - unless Trump becomes president.
I wonder, though, if this rhetoric from Russia could end up being somewhat counterproductive. It seems plausible that this rhetoric could lead to greater military aid to Ukraine - I mean if Western Europe thinks Putin is going to come for them anyway, why not take him on more strongly in Ukraine? What's to lose?
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