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What used EV with solid performance (reliability), except Tesla?
#1
Looking to replace my old PHEV Volt. We have an ICE car for longer road trips, and we could go full EV on the second car. Wife has a 95 mile round trip commute but she only plans to go 3-4 times per week. My commute is 19 miles round trip about 4 times per week.

I would like a Tesla but Elon turns me off.

A quick look at EV market left me unimpressed. Polestar seems to be $50-60k, Rivian seems to start at 75k.

maybe I should look at Kia and Hyundai EVs (I did not look hard).

or buy used, but I am concerned about battery life. I know Tesla got their battery technology (chemistry, thermal management) just right. I Understand Nissan leaf had major problems with battery. No idea if a used Polestar or Kia or Hyundai has extended warranty on their battery. Chevy BOLT is out of production, and just like Volt, I am afraid to invest into a discontinued model, parts will be hard to find in 5 years.

So used cars point me back at Tesla which I don't want.

I'm afraid I'll end up with another PHEV (Toyota?) or an ICE car.

I'd like to keep it under 40k if possible. and buy something that will last me 10 years and 100k miles.
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#2
Have you investigated the Nissan Leaf at all? It's been around for a long time, before the Tesla Model S.

My neighbor had one and always spoke very highly of it, they were retired so it was mostly local driving, but they would also go visit their children/grandchildren about 200 miles away. I think they had the largest battery option offered.

Unfortunately he passed away a few months ago so I can't asking him questions.
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#3
I think the Leaf had some thermal management issues, at least the first generations. The batteries didn't last.

And Nissan is not in great financial shape right now, so I would be hesitant to invest in a Leaf.
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#4
VW is the top-selling EV in Europe
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#5
What about the Chevy Equinox EV or Ford Mustang EV? Those seem to meet your requirements.
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davester wrote:
What about the Chevy Equinox EV or Ford Mustang EV? Those seem to meet your requirements.

My son bought a Bolt EUV in '23. And when the battery finally failed under warranty, he traded up for an Equinox EV. Batteries made in the US, more modular for replacement instead of shipped from Korea.

He likes it. The self driving feature "SuperCruise" is more advanced than the Bolt EUV... kind of freaked me out when it changed lanes to get around a truck. The ride is smoother. More range.

The Bolt and Bolt EUV had an older Korean battery design, and that had issues.

Now if he can just get his tax rebate from the stealership... "Oh, it was part of the 'rebate' deal".

Him: "You said absolutely nothing about that, and I have nothing in writing. In fact the recordings I made of all our conversations I even mentioned expecting the tax rebate and you said that would be great."

Car dealerships love to scam.
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#7
I am in the process of buying a 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5. 300 mile range, fast charging, nice hatchback, all the bells and whistles.
$31,000 for a car with 7000 miles on it, but I have seen older models with about 15,000 miles for maybe $26,000. This is in San Francisco so your mileage may vary.
I also would have put Tesla near the top of the list, but given recent events, it became a non-competitor,
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#8
Ombligo wrote:
VW is the top-selling EV in Europe

Huh

We are talking "used" EVs here.

"In full year 2024, the Tesla Model Y and Model 3 were again the best-selling battery electric car models in Europe despite weaker sales."

https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe...ar-models/
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#9
I would absolutely steer you toward the Ioniq 5 in the used market.
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#10
Kia and Hyundai seem like great options
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