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TIVO, Toast 8, transfers, encoding and burns. It takes a while but it works and works well.
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TIVO, Toast 8, transfers, encoding and burns. It takes a while but it works and works well.

Hi everyone,

Jsut want to see if my experience with the aforementioned tasks are similar to yours. One of the reasons I bought Toast 8 was for the TIVO transfer software. So, before I delve into the summary, I can tell you, the TIVO transfer software is actually quite nice.

The interface has the iTunes mentality and is super easy to navigate and makes transferring content from a TIVO remarkably easy. It also doubles as a organization package. But, based on a few tests, the actual transfer is slow! Incredibly slow!

A 30 minute show recorded in high quality takes approximately 1 to 1.5 hours to transfer. A 120 minute movie takes about 3 to 3.5 hours to transfer. My G5 has 802.11g, the Toshiba RSTX-20 TIVO DVD Recorder is connected to a TIVO brand 802.11g wireless dongle and my router is an Apple 802.11n model. Then again, I am transferring over a gig of content from the TIVO. But, still, I was hoping for higher transfer rates.

Once the content is in the TIVO transfer software, all you need to do to have Toast work with it is press a single button. Very cool. But, before you can burn it to disc as a plain ol DVD, Toast must encode it. This took about an hour or so on a G5 Dual 2.0. I usually tell Toast to save items as a disc image and then burn it to disc at a later time.

The end result is a nicely done DVD. Unfortunately, it’s time consuming. The reality is it’s vastly faster and far more convenient to use my Toshiba’s built-in DVD recorder to archive content to disc. The Toshiba can fit 2 hours of content at high quality on a single DVD. So, I’ll probably still use the built-in burner to archive content that is two hours or less in length.

Content that is more than two hours at high quality requires more than one DVD. So, the next test is to see how the transfer/encode/burn will handle a show the Toshiba can’t fit onto a single DVD. In theory, Toast will be able to compress the content to fit. I just don’t know if the quality will make it worth the effort.

I’ll post results with more detailed times when circumstances allow. But, agaion, the TIVO transfer software, which also doubles as a content organization package is very nice. Very very nice. It gives you good detaisl about the show, it’s length, the format, etc.

Robert
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The trouble comes when you try to transcode to iPod video format.
There are intermittent audio delays. So far Roxio has not stomped out this bug.
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My experiences are similar, I really like the Toast interface which is easy to use.

I think the sloooooow transfer speeds are a function of the TiVo software's USB functionality. Did I state that right? Someone told me that the software in TiVo drives the USB at speeds of USB-1 and not USB-2 -- I heard a software revision on TiVo's part would drive them at USB-2. Is this true? I never verified it. I have a TiVo Series 3 HD and a TiVo Series 2 on the network via ethenet, neither are wireless, both have really slow transfer speeds.

I don't recall seeing a way to get programs that have been offloaded from the TiVo back to the TiVo from the Mac though if you want to watch them again. Did I miss something on how to do this.
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You can move things in the other direction: from your Mac to your Tivo on the network.
Using Visual Hub and Tivo Desktop you can convert any video format to TiVo and have it show up under your computer in "Now Playing". From there you can transfer it to your TiVo.

http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/
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On a 100Base-T wired network, the Series3 will transfer shows in about real-time. Oddly, it doesn't seem to matter whether they are HD or SD, even though the HD programs are almost 10 times bigger.
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Those transfer times are slow - compared to my zippered Series 2 DirecTivo. I can transfer a 1 hour show (about 850 MB ) in 13 minutes over an 802.11g connection.
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#7
toast is very slow when it comes to encoding, consider using mpeg2works if you have a lot of files to encode...
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