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This really does not affect me (I am a married straight guy) but I was at dinner last night having, up to then, a calm discussion with my in-laws. Then someone brought up blogging about politics, Prop. 8 came up and it did not get better from there. I was the only person in the room saying how this is nothing more than bigotry and I hope that it fails to pass. There were three people saying that is was important to pass "to protect families". They could not see that by passing such a "law" that they would be essentially reinforcing a 2-tiered society.
I think that this is NOTHING more than a CIVIL RIGHTS issue and the arguments to me sound like the same used in the 60's to keep communities "pure".
Anyone else disgusted by these folks?
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Proposition 8 is an initiative measure on the 2008 California General Election ballot. If passed it would amend the California Constitution with a new section that would read "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." The measure, as submitted for the ballot by petitioners, is called the "California Marriage Protection Act." The ballot title, as prepared by the Attorney General Jerry Brown, is "Eliminates Right of Same-sex Couples to Marry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_...n_8_(2008)
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people can feel threatened by whatever they want to feel threatened by
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55% of the state poll against the measure.
That means that 45% of Californians are scum.
Yep. That's about right.
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Unfortunately I know way too many people that have irrational fears about same sex marriage. I am very glad it seems to be going down to defeat. I hope the Yes on Prop. 8 campaign dumps a huge wad of money on it and gets soundly defeated.
I try to bring up things like Britney Spears getting married for 55 hours whenever someone says marriage needs to be "defended."
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The irony is that Gay marriage only became topical because it was on the Bush administration's short list of topics to shove in front of the media to kill any unwanted focus on illegal wiretapping and access to phone records and all the other things that matter most to the folks in the white house-- along with stem cell research and the "immigration problem" it's ascendency to an "issue" was purely incidental/accidental.
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I went to a wedding yesterday. Two very close friends of mine who happen to be gay. The previous weekend I went to a wedding of two of my wife's close friends who happen to be lesbians. Despite the fact that about half of those present at both weddings were straight married couples I didn't see any marriages that needed protecting in any way (except perhap protecting the newlyweds from the religious yes-on-8 zealots). All I really saw was large quantities of happiness. There were even some bible belt folks at one of the weddings (family of one of the grooms who grew up in Iowa). They seemed a little bit agape at the proceedings but I talked to them and had the feeling that they were thinking "this isn't so bad after all".
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Yes, I am disgusted, now that I know what it is.
Filliam's comment about Brittney really made me laugh. What is with that girl?
Maybe what we really need-- for both gays and straights-- is a LONG probationary period before and/or after the wedding to give people an "out", in case they realize they made a horrible mistake. I thought that's what engagements were supposed to be for, but it seems that a broken engagement is still considered somewhat of a faux pas and scandalous ... why? Should it be so incredibly horrible that you realize that you DIDN'T want to spend the rest of your life with that person? Better that you figure that out BEFORE you get married, then spend years and years with someone you despise... but of course, that would make sense.
