Benefiting from a death ? Union "representative" = pigdog

[cbelt3]

This makes me want to barf. A person was killed in a horrible incident of mob behaviour, and this UFCW schlub wants to make political hay out of it ?

This is the same union that took 'initiation fees' and dues from my daughter, and then did nothing when she was assigned a job, given no training, and then fired for 'not performing' because she had no training. My daughter effectively worked for about $3 an hour (Min wage in Ohio is $6.45) during this time.

THEN had the damn gall to call her up two months later and insist that she vote for Obama or be 'drummed out of the union'.

These guys need to go.

[Black Landlord]

I have been similarly dissapointed by do-nothing unions, but I think they are completely within their right, and within reasonable taste to speak out about this.
Or do you think one should be prepared to give one's life frivolously for one's employer?

[Black Landlord]

edit- sorry, senior moment . . .

[Carnos Jax]

There are good and bad when it comes to unions. Hopefully the good outweigh the bad. I know they intervened once when my mom was about to lose her job (essentially management made false allegations about something she said in a previous meeting, but completely forgot about the union rep being present, caught them totally off guard, been nice to her ever since...duplicitous bungholes).

[$tevie]

I dunno. I do think that Walmart should be held responsible for that death, at least to a certain extent. When 12 people were trampled to death at the Who concert those many years ago, there was the same sort of reaction and indeed there were laws passed regarding festival seating.

Maybe stores should not whip people into a frenzy with these early openings and the threat that certain items will not be available if the customers aren't there as the doors open. Maybe the entire Black Friday concept of extreme greed and panic is just getting to be too much for these stores to deal with.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if the entire Black Friday shopping spectacle was relegated to the dust bin of history. We need to stop encouraging this sort of thing. Going Christmas shopping at the crack of dawn is madness if you ask me.

[mikeylikesit]

I can almost hear cbelt's grandfather grumbling about those union anarchists using the bodies of dead miners to line their own pockets.

[Black Landlord]

$tevie wrote:
I dunno. I do think that Walmart should be held responsible for that death, at least to a certain extent. When 12 people were trampled to death at the Who concert those many years ago, there was the same sort of reaction and indeed there were laws passed regarding festival seating.

Maybe stores should not whip people into a frenzy with these early openings and the threat that certain items will not be available if the customers aren't there as the doors open. Maybe the entire Black Friday concept of extreme greed and panic is just getting to be too much for these stores to deal with.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if the entire Black Friday shopping spectacle was relegated to the dust bin of history. We need to stop encouraging this sort of thing. Going Christmas shopping at the crack of dawn is madness if you ask me.

You had to go and mention the who.
I was at this concert, a few days after the Cleveland (or was it Cincinatti?) trampling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzkjueOFtm4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82bbJOAi4fE

[cbelt3]

Bl- the concert was in Cincy.

And my grandfather had to deal with the NYC building services unions, who always had their hands out for a bribe. He managed commerical real estate in Midtown. My Uncle runs the business now, and he says it's the same as it always was. You just have to build the bribes into your business model.

[OWC Jamie]

The festival seating "laws" were rescinded.
"Blame" was placed on insufficent crowd control.
Which appears to be the case with the WalMart trampling fiasco.



I'm no fan of unions in general, but in this case I'd consider them irresponsible if they didn't try to ensure extra security was hired especially from thier ranks.

[cbelt3]

billb-
if you RTA you'll find that the Wal-mart hired security, put up crowd barriers, and did everything the Nassau County Sheriff's office asked them to do. Which the union puke failed to discover before gleefully blaming Wal-Mart for this sad incident.