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Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - silvarios - 05-27-2014
mrbigstuff wrote:
I think that's a pretty fair assessment by Silvarios; it's one of the features that Apple touted so vociferously just a couple of years ago, with good reason.
Thank you. Clearly, I don't think higher res displays are a bad thing. I loved the display on my iPad 3. My 720p cell phone is rather neat as well.
Yet, I do see Lew's original point, pointless spec races do happen, and specs are not always as important as manufacturers want us to think. I'm happily typing this on a 3.5" 480x320 res device. Granted, it might have an IPS display as viewing angles are pretty decent.
Not sure why rz assumes I'm slamming Apple by mentioning a mostly neutral to positive fact about Apple?
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - neophyte - 05-27-2014
The Knock code had been in the Android OS for many years. When you start up an Android phone for the first time, it wants to go through a set-up process, but this could be bypassed by touching all four corners of the screen sequentially starting with the top left corner and proceeding clockwise. The phone would then go right to the home screen. Thus you could demo a phone right out of the box.
The LG G3 has the new Snapdragon 801 processor running at 2.45 GHz with an improved GPU, so it should be able to handle hi res image processing without lag. The G3 also has 2 or 3 GB of RAM, which is important when you load it with lots of little apps that run in the background. And 24GB of available memory for the user, with a micro SD card slot capable of supporting a 128GB (!) card. I don't know if such a card is available yet.
All-in-all, it seems like LG has finally decided to produce a high-end Android device. Good competition against the top end Samsung S series.
I used to sell phones for VerizonWireless but have been out of that business for over a year and a half. Back then, LG phones for VZW were all mid to low end: slow processors, insufficient RAM and memory, inexpensive of course. This G3 will probably retail for $300 with a contract.
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - Lew Zealand - 05-27-2014
silvarios wrote:
[quote=rz]
[quote=silvarios]
[quote=Lew Zealand]
So the new megahertz race is the megapixel display race in phones? That resolution is mega overkill, but it's more than anyone else's!!! Buy it!!!
Yet, when Apple keeps upping the res on their hardware…
Couldn't resist getting in a dig about Apple, could you?
Couldn't resist trolling people from thread to thread, could you?
Seriously, the headline seemed to be an intentional play on Apple release Tuesday. Isn't Apple rumored to be releasing a larger screen iPhone? Doesn't Apple strictly compete with these sorts of high end smart phones? Isn't Apple one of the biggest proponents of high res displays? Are any of these things inherently negative?
That prior speculation is fun but here is my point:
Apple has never had a 538dpi display because once you get to "Retina", which is apparently around 300dpi plus or minus a bit depending on how close you are to the display, the extra resolution is wasted. I am very much in the camp that ~300dpi is necessary as my primary use on my iPhone 4 (now 5) and iPad Mini Retina is to read text and they are fabulous for this use.
300DPI is overkill for movies and probably for images and in fact I rip movies for the iPad at 1/4 the res because there just ain't much more to see at 4x the resolution and file size (more or less).
538 is overkill and a waste of engineering. Unless it sells you more phones because the consumer is always right.
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - Lew Zealand - 05-27-2014
There are people who may point out that imagesetting starts at 1200ppi and can go up from there, so maybe this LG display is warranted. The flaw in that logic is that imagesetters are 1 color B&W (Ok, just B) or 4 color CMYK devices (we'll ignore 88-175ppi linescreens for images here) but they are just that: 1 color per pixel. They need the extra resolution to make those "all-on" and "all-off" pixels look like smooth lines at reading distances because our eye-brain system is very attuned to contrast boundaries. Computer & phone displays have 16M colors per point and can create smooth, sharp images at about 300ppi.
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - Lux Interior - 05-28-2014
silvarios wrote:
[quote=Lew Zealand]
So the new megahertz race is the megapixel display race in phones? That resolution is mega overkill, but it's more than anyone else's!!! Buy it!!!
Yet, when Apple keeps upping the res on their hardware…
Apple has had one bump in screen resolution. And the bump resulted in a visible improvement.
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - sekker - 05-28-2014
The LG hardware looks really nice.
I hope Apple makes a comparable iPhone.
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - silvarios - 05-28-2014
Lux Interior wrote: Apple has had one bump in screen resolution. And the bump resulted in a visible improvement.
480x320, 960x640, 1136 x 640 for the iPhone alone. 1024x768 and 2048x1536 for the iPad. Frankly, the reason Apple typically likes multiples of the original resolution is because iOS does not handle multiple resolutions very well. Remember black bars on apps when the iPhone 5 first launched? Or the inability for iPhone apps to display properly on iPads (unless the app is universal)?
Android's jump to 800x480 (or thereabout) was also a noticeable jump. Then to 720p and 1080p or similar resolutions. Perhaps the latest resolution leap might be a little excessive, but time will tell. I wouldn't be surprised if the new iPhone ends up with more pixels.
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - silvarios - 05-28-2014
sekker wrote:
The LG hardware looks really nice.
I hope Apple makes a comparable iPhone.
I wouldn't mind one flagship iPhone (basically the same internal specs), but three sizes small (4"), medium (4.7"), and large (5.5").
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - space-time - 05-28-2014
silvarios wrote:
[quote=sekker]
The LG hardware looks really nice.
I hope Apple makes a comparable iPhone.
I wouldn't mind one flagship iPhone (basically the same internal specs), but three sizes small (4"), medium (4.7"), and large (5.5").
you missed the recent thread about sizes in the US. There is no small.
it is Medium, Large and eXtra-Large.
Re: It's Tuesday! New iron announced! - sekker - 05-28-2014
iOS7 handles differential resolutions MUCH better than earlier iOS versions.
I do not find the resolution on my iPhone 5S an issue, tho I DO wish my Kindle had a slightly higher pixel density. I can see the edges of pixels when I view the screen close-up (I'm very myopic).
Seems to me that a larger-screen, higher resolution iP6 with sapphire screen is what's in the cooker for 2014. That's a nice upgrade for iP4 and iP4S users, but not so compelling for iP5 and above.
We'll see whether Apple comes up with something practical. I think TouchID plus the anti-theft software implementation in iOS7 was pretty nice upgrade (tho I personally do not like the Windows-reminding flat look of iOS7). I can appreciate the under-the-hood without needing a facelift.