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Re: ARRRRGGGHHHH...I hate Microsoft!!! - ztirffritz - 02-08-2007
[quote Filliam H. Muffman]Enough that your boss should have just written a purchase order for a brand new server and a copy of Red Hat for half the price?
So why do you think M$ is coming for an audit... fired anybody recently?
I wouldn't use RedHat. I'd use SuSE. I think this started because of a disgruntled employee in our UK office. They started digging and struck gold over there. As with most audits you keep digging until you hit the bottom. I think that my licenses are square, but MS makes it incredibly difficult to document. There are so many different types of licenses.
Retail
OEM
Select
Open
Enterprise
Other...
I've never gotten anyone to satisfactorily explain the differences in the licenses. The Retail ones are pretty easy. They are the little stickers on the machine. Everything else is a free-for-all that doesn't make any sense.
Re: ARRRRGGGHHHH...I hate Microsoft!!! - onthedownlow - 02-08-2007
[quote ztirffritz]Guess what 3 seats of W2k3 server with 180 CALs goes for?
Well, if you are referring to W2K3 Server Standard...pricing for me is: $80.48
CAL licensing is: $5.45 per - and on some unique devices, is only $0.48 per license (yep, 48 cents).
So, by my math...it'd cost (for me, anyways): $241.44 + $981 (using $5.45 per) = $1,222.44
Not shabby. ; )
Re: ARRRRGGGHHHH...I hate Microsoft!!! - M A V I C - 02-08-2007
[quote ztirffritz]Guess what 3 seats of W2k3 server with 180 CALs goes for?
What are you doing that needs 180 CALs?
We write apps that basically do anything you want, but only utilize one CAL.
[quote onthedownlow][quote ztirffritz]Guess what 3 seats of W2k3 server with 180 CALs goes for?
Well, if you are referring to W2K3 Server Standard...pricing for me is: $80.48
CAL licensing is: $5.45 per - and on some unique devices, is only $0.48 per license (yep, 48 cents).
So, by my math...it'd cost (for me, anyways): $241.44 + $981 (using $5.45 per) = $1,222.44
Not shabby. ; )
You're obviously not buying from CDW ;0
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=553098
Just buying 20pks we're talking over $16k.
Re: ARRRRGGGHHHH...I hate Microsoft!!! - ztirffritz - 02-08-2007
If someone accesses a file on a server a CAL is required. Guess what a server is for? Sharing files. MS sucks.
Re: ARRRRGGGHHHH...I hate Microsoft!!! - onthedownlow - 02-08-2007
.You're obviously not buying from CDW ;0
Just buying 20pks we're talking over $16k.
You are correct. Much cheaper dealing directly with Microsoft than using a reseller (especially CDW. lol)
Re: ARRRRGGGHHHH...I hate Microsoft!!! - M A V I C - 02-08-2007
[quote ztirffritz]If someone accesses a file on a server a CAL is required. Guess what a server is for? Sharing files. MS sucks.
There are ways around that for file serving as well.
[quote onthedownlow]
.You're obviously not buying from CDW ;0
Just buying 20pks we're talking over $16k.
You are correct. Much cheaper dealing directly with Microsoft than using a reseller (especially CDW. lol)
Except for development, you can't buy software directly from MS. There are 4 (IIRC) main suppliers of MS software. All business and consumer customers buy their software, one way or another, from them. Even the OEMs don't buy from MS.
Your pricing does seem right for something like MSDN.
Re: ARRRRGGGHHHH...I hate Microsoft!!! - ztirffritz - 02-08-2007
"There are ways around that for file serving as well"
Yeah, like using Linux with Samba on it. I thought about doing that too. But I'm not allowed.