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Not exactly a DGU - pdq - 04-13-2024 Ohio Uber driver killed in shooting after being sent to pick up scammer’s package ![]() William Brock, 81, faces a felony charge of murder with additional counts possible, according to the Clark County Sheriff’s Office. Investigators accused him of shooting Lo-Letha Hall multiple times on March 25 after she went to his house on an Uber assignment. Shoot first, call 911 later. Earlier, a male scammer had called Brock and told him one of his relatives was in jail. The scammer then threatened the 81-year-old man and demanded money. Simultaneously, that same scammer or an accomplice placed an order on the Uber app for Hall to pick up a package for delivery from Brock’s property. She wasn’t aware of the calls Brock had received when she arrived at his home, according to investigators. This is exactly what guns do in our society. Call the f’in police. Re: Not exactly a DGU - Lemon Drop - 04-13-2024 This is a terrible tragedy. People who prey on seniors like this are scum of the earth. The shooter likely has some dementia or other age-related neurological issue making him more paranoid and anxious than a typical person would be. So that's a situation where family members must secure guns, when their loved one is no longer making rational judgments. And could accidentally harm themselves or someone else. Not really something gun control can fix. He probably owned that pistol for decades. Re: Not exactly a DGU - pdq - 04-13-2024 Lemon Drop wrote: If he didn’t have a gun, he wouldn’t have killed the unsuspecting Uber driver. He would have (and should have) called the police first, but when you have a gun, you want to be John Wayne. It’s like when little kids find dad’s gun and shoot themselves accidentally. Calling it a terrible tragedy - but nothing can be done kind of misses the elephant in the room. Re: Not exactly a DGU - Michael - 04-13-2024 That poor lady--just trying to make a living and she runs into an idiot. Brock doesn't look at all unhappy in his booking picture. I truly hope he never sees the light of day again. Re: Not exactly a DGU - hal - 04-13-2024 what is a DGU? Re: Not exactly a DGU - Michael - 04-13-2024 hal wrote: Defensive Gun Use Re: Not exactly a DGU - Ted King - 04-13-2024 I wonder if he can use Ohio's version of "stand your ground": https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/stand-your-ground-in-ohio/ Ohio enacted a stand your ground law in early 2021, which generally prohibits a court or trier of fact from considering whether a person knew they could have retreated before using deadly force in self-defense when the person using force was in any place they had a right to be.2 This applies to both criminal and civil liability. 3 I guess the key here is that it talks about self-defense, not defense of property. Re: Not exactly a DGU - Speedy - 04-13-2024 Gunners… Re: Not exactly a DGU - Lemon Drop - 04-13-2024 pdq wrote: If he didn’t have a gun, he wouldn’t have killed the unsuspecting Uber driver. He would have (and should have) called the police first, but when you have a gun, you want to be John Wayne. It’s like when little kids find dad’s gun and shoot themselves accidentally. Calling it a terrible tragedy - but nothing can be done kind of misses the elephant in the room. There's a certain reality we have to acknowledge as Americans. 10s of millions of us have guns in our homes, glove compartments,sometimes carried on our person. Those guns are not going anywhere, so people need to know: Are my own guns well secured? So kids and crooks can't get them? Do my elderly relatives have guns? Should they? Do my kids play at homes with guns? Are they secure? We have to live with these guns, and live is what we want to do. After that, vote for people who will enact and enforce common sense gun responsibility laws. Unless you plan to leave the country, that's all we got. Re: Not exactly a DGU - Lux Interior - 04-13-2024 Wow. I bet the MRFer who fantasized about shooting unarmed protestors wishes he could have murdered someone in cold blood just like this. |