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Benefiting from a death ? Union "representative" = pigdog
#11
That doesn't change my view at all. Nobody else is allowed to have enormous crowds gather without having to get permission from the local government via permits and so forth. Why should retail outlets be allowed to do so? We now have shootings and tramplings and such, I think it's time to ban this nonsense.
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#12
I didn't RTA ?

Obviously I missed CNN's expertise in crowd control and thier being the last word regarding legal culpibility.


An organization that's been wrangling with Walmart for years takes an event and wants to make issue of it. That's surprising ? They'd be stupid and remiss if they didn't.




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addendum

I'd like to see the stores closed on Sundays and open 9 to 9 only.
All year long. Closed on National Holidays, too.

I'd also like to see the media not sensationalize this crap, but it the retail advertising dollars is what keeps them in business.
Maybe start regulating everything again. :-)
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#13
After the last supermarket strike in So. CA, unions are just mooching relatives.
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#14
The originally posted article mentioned barriers and security, others do not.
Chanting "push the doors in," the crowd pressed against the glass as the clock ticked down to the 5 a.m. opening.

Sensing catastrophe, nervous employees formed a human chain inside the entrance to slow down the mass of shoppers.

It didn't work.

The mob barreled in and overwhelmed workers.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008...after.html

While unions have sometimes received deserved criticism for unlawful dealings, many forget what unions have brought to the American workplace.
  • 40 hour work week, it used to be 72
  • Overtime/holiday pay
  • Paid sick leave
  • Paid vacations
  • Health insurance
  • Better wages
  • Improved worker safety
  • Work rules in general, not just at the whim of the employer
  • Lunch and rest breaks
And these are just a few. The unions to which I have belonged have been very beneficial to my workplace.

=wr=
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#15
wave rider, don't confuse the union bashers with the truth! They don't like that.
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#16
wave rider wrote:
The originally posted article mentioned barriers and security, others do not.
Chanting "push the doors in," the crowd pressed against the glass as the clock ticked down to the 5 a.m. opening.

Sensing catastrophe, nervous employees formed a human chain inside the entrance to slow down the mass of shoppers.

It didn't work.

The mob barreled in and overwhelmed workers.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008...after.html

While unions have sometimes received deserved criticism for unlawful dealings, many forget what unions have brought to the American workplace.
  • 40 hour work week, it used to be 72
  • Overtime/holiday pay
  • Paid sick leave
  • Paid vacations
  • Health insurance
  • Better wages
  • Improved worker safety
  • Work rules in general, not just at the whim of the employer
  • Lunch and rest breaks
And these are just a few. The unions to which I have belonged have been very beneficial to my workplace.

=wr=

I'm a contractor. I get what I negotiate. I negotiated twice the pay, and with half the hours.
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#17
Racer X wrote:
[quote=wave rider]
The originally posted article mentioned barriers and security, others do not.
Chanting "push the doors in," the crowd pressed against the glass as the clock ticked down to the 5 a.m. opening.

Sensing catastrophe, nervous employees formed a human chain inside the entrance to slow down the mass of shoppers.

It didn't work.

The mob barreled in and overwhelmed workers.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008...after.html

While unions have sometimes received deserved criticism for unlawful dealings, many forget what unions have brought to the American workplace.
  • 40 hour work week, it used to be 72
  • Overtime/holiday pay
  • Paid sick leave
  • Paid vacations
  • Health insurance
  • Better wages
  • Improved worker safety
  • Work rules in general, not just at the whim of the employer
  • Lunch and rest breaks
And these are just a few. The unions to which I have belonged have been very beneficial to my workplace.

=wr=

I'm a contractor. I get what I negotiate. I negotiated twice the pay, and with half the hours.
And good for you! Not everyone has your particular skills/gifts that give you the upper hand in your field and negotiations. Unions are very useful in fields where the labor does not need to be as skilled. In those cases, the only protection the worker has is to organize. I've also found unions very useful when dealing with large bureaucratic organizations.

In my case, currently, I'm in the union for one job, a contractor on another, and a standard employee at the third. Occasional freelance falls into the mix as well. I'm thankful for all of them these days...

=wr=
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