GM in talks to buy Chrysler

[BigGuynRusty]

Not the same Buick, not the crap Buick they sell here,
It is a 5.7L Corvette motor, Six-Speed rear wheel drive great handling rocket made by Holden.

BGnR

[pRON aHOLIC]

[quote Dakota]Of the three, Chrysler has been the most innovative. Charger, Challenger, Magnum, 300C, PT, Jeeps and an excellent engine line up to go with them. I don't know why they can't make money.
They rode the truck and SUV wave just like Ford and GM and undersold their fuel efficiency. Look at their commercials. Everything is tough tough tough. Look how tough our trucks are. "It's got a HEMI!'

http://youtube.com/watch?v=07XcMZRGNVk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sPXI5-V9kXE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6zF_YkHFLIA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5nNfw60Z6E4


Here is Honda's "Most fuel efficient car company in the US commercial. Lame but it is branding the idea that Honda is fuel efficient. Their sales seems to be doing just fine.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bY-CQw3-G0k

Toyota's ad touts "engine of change".
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Da5MvAhskKE

[Pat]

Danny,

How in the world can you compare those? How about Apples to Apples there Dvorak?

Here's some of Toyota's truck commercials:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SuhYsdQ_cj8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pQwOFe2Moe0&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mmlDrS3DQpg&mode=related&search=

MPG? Engine of change? My a$$.

Compare trucks to trucks next time.

[DharmaDog]

While Toyotas are generally more fuel efficient than than their American counterparts, I don't think we can say that as a whole Toyota is across the board concerned about fuel economy.

Toyota gets more credit than they deserve, IMHO, considering they make 2 truck models and 6 SUV models (9 if you count Lexus). Granted they don't lean on their trucks and SUVs for sales the same way that the big 2.5 do, but Toyota's sales of trucks and SUVs aren't hurting either.

Toyota is really just playing it smart and catering to all parties. If you want a hybrid, you can get one; if you want a gas guzzling SUV, they'll sell you that, too.

If I was looking for a hybrid, I think I'd consider the Accord. Honda has still left some enjoyment of driving in their cars. Toyotas are just boring point-A-to-point-B appliances. They don't even have any sports cars anymore. There is no fun anymore at Toyota. They have become just a higher quality Buick - bleh! And even the quality is coming into question these days. So it's just plain old Buick.

Whatever happens to Chrysler, I sure hope they don't kill Jeep. That's their only real differentiator. I don't know why GM would want Jeep, unless they plan to kill Hummer - not a bad idea.

[pRON aHOLIC]

[quote Pat]Danny,

How in the world can you compare those? How about Apples to Apples there Dvorak?

Here's some of Toyota's truck commercials:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SuhYsdQ_cj8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pQwOFe2Moe0&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mmlDrS3DQpg&mode=related&search=

MPG? Engine of change? My a$$.

Compare trucks to trucks next time.
The difference is Toyota is making money off their car lines, all their eggs in one basket. GM, Chrysler and Ford had their profitability resting in trucks and SUV. It is a fact that higher gas prices turned off many consumers to this market. The sales numbers prove it out.

Yes, toyota truck commercials sell toughness and that idea of braun, but they also are touting hybrids and addressing the influx of the Korean car makers with the scion line.

Before you get too upset, you should know that I will be owning a Chevy in the next few months.

[Pat]

Danny,

Just so you know, my first truck was a Toyota. My wife is on her second RAV4. We've owned Hondas and Nissans too.

We buy according to what best fits our needs, foreign or domestic.

[pRON aHOLIC]

[quote Pat]Danny,

Just so you know, my first truck was a Toyota. My wife is on her second RAV4. We've owned Hondas and Nissans too.

We buy according to what best fits our needs, foreign of domestic.
That's what I do, I suggest everyone do the same.

[kj]

>>Not the same Buick, not the crap Buick they sell here, It is a 5.7L Corvette motor, Six-Speed rear wheel drive great handling rocket made by Holden.

Which would be the GTO here. kj.