Manafort Ukraine connection

[Speedy]

cbelt3 wrote:
A Republican controlled Senate is 100% guaranteed to attempt to impeach a President Clinton. They've done it before.

The House impeaches, the Senate tries. I should have used 'indicted' rather than 'prosecuted' because it is closer to what happens. In the House, a simple majority will impeach and send it to the Senate where 2/3 must vote to convict so the Senate will never convict.

[Ted King]

pdq wrote:

Anyway, while I have no love of Trump, I'm inclined to let the dust settle on this one before reaching conclusions. I remember the documents they "found" in Iraq showing a bunch of Western anti-war politicians supposedly getting huge cash payments from Saddam Hussain, and that never came to anything (ie, was just more of the BS that was peddled during the Iraq war). So I'm inherently suspicious of Ukrainian ledgers showing payments of millions.

If there's something there, there will be some corroboration.

I'm with you on waiting to see how this develops. How strong is the evidence really? That may take some time to determine. I do think that there's a good chance that the editors at the Times made sure that the documents were what they are claimed to be and contain the information that it is claimed they contain, though, so I think this merits serious consideration.

[SteveG]

Shouldn't Angela Lansbury be appearing soon?


Who knew it was a documentary?

[hal]

pdq wrote:
[quote=samintx]
What happens if before or after Clinton is Prez charges are brought against her? You can prosecute a prez? Does it disqualify if you are just a nominee? Oh, God…we can't get Trump by default. Say it isn't so,Joe.

Wait - how did we get from Trump's campaign manager possibly receiving millions off the books from the Ukrainians... to charges against Clinton?

:S

Anyway, while I have no love of Trump, I'm inclined to let the dust settle on this one before reaching conclusions. I remember the documents they "found" in Iraq showing a bunch of Western anti-war politicians supposedly getting huge cash payments from Saddam Hussain, and that never came to anything (ie, was just more of the BS that was peddled during the Iraq war). So I'm inherently suspicious of Ukrainian ledgers showing payments of millions.

If there's something there, there will be some corroboration.
Keep in mind that Manafort is not denying working for the pro Russian former governing party in Ukraine - he's denying that he was paid under the table to do nefarious deeds. It was all on the up & up...

And we aren't talking about a single line item on a piece of paper - it's 100s of pages of stuff.