18 people were killed and 13 injured in Maine shootings, governor says

[Speedy]

Smote wrote:
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“well regulated”.

why do you refuse to accept that in 1791 well regulated ment in proper working order? All the dictionaries from around that time period plainly show regulated's meaning.

https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/regulate

"1. To adjust by rule, method or established mode; as, to regulate weights and measures; to regulate the assize of bread; to regulate our moral conduct by the laws of God and of society; to regulate our manners by the customary forms.

2. To put in good order; as, to regulate the disordered state of a nation or its finances.

3. To subject to rules or restrictions; as, to regulate trade; to regulate diet."

notice rules and restrictions is AFTER, and less comonly used, than 1 and 2? and LAWS aren't mentioned.

https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/regulated

"REG'ULATED, participle passive Adjusted by rule, method or forms; put in good order; subjected to rules or restrictions."

once again, AFTER, it is a less common useage than put in good order or adjusted by rule or methods.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/well-regulated

"(of a business, military outfit, routine, etc) controlled or supervised to conform to rules, regulations, tradition, etc: a well-regulated militia"

notice it never said LAWS? nothing legally binding or commanding?
The government makes the rules and establishes the methods and modes. Including all the examples following in 1). Do you think ye olde pound was a weight established by the owner of an iron or stone weight? Or that buildings were constructed using each carpenter’s individual foot? Then the carpenter with the biggest boot must have gotten all the construction jobs.

[DeusxMac]

Smote wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
“well regulated”.

why do you refuse to accept that in 1791 well regulated ment in proper working order? All the dictionaries from around that time period plainly show regulated's meaning.

https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/regulate

"1. To adjust by rule, method or established mode; as, to regulate weights and measures; to regulate the assize of bread; to regulate our moral conduct by the laws of God and of society; to regulate our manners by the customary forms.

2. To put in good order; as, to regulate the disordered state of a nation or its finances.

3. To subject to rules or restrictions; as, to regulate trade; to regulate diet."

notice rules and restrictions is AFTER, and less comonly used, than 1 and 2? and LAWS aren't mentioned.

https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/regulated

"REG'ULATED, participle passive Adjusted by rule, method or forms; put in good order; subjected to rules or restrictions."

once again, AFTER, it is a less common useage than put in good order or adjusted by rule or methods.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/well-regulated

"(of a business, military outfit, routine, etc) controlled or supervised to conform to rules, regulations, tradition, etc: a well-regulated militia"

notice it never said LAWS? nothing legally binding or commanding?
Yet again conveniently ignoring that critical (and incompatible) word, MILITIA!

“Article 1, Section 8. The Congress shall have Power...”

“To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the “Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”

“To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”

“Article 2, Section 2. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States”

“The Militia”, not “a militia”. This very specific usage is the Achilles Heel of 2A zealots. Their whitewashing of the 2nd Amendment demands that they bury it.

[pdq]

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With further thought, we ought to cool down a little bit.

This business of You said that I said that you said is never very enlightening.