Apparently I'm no longer a red light camera virgin

[mattkime]

>>a free people should not abide red light cameras. Period.

if you don't like traffic laws, you're free not to drive a car!

[deckeda]

Robert, thanks for clarifying.

Matt, you can see all of the posts in this thread, right?

[Robert M]

Dek,

My pleasure! Thanks for the good conversation. Definitely brightened my day a bit.

Robert

[Lux Interior]

[quote RAMd®d]It's a little scary that people "don't remember" running a red light or stop sign.
It's not that hard if you're driving in a unfamiliar area. I remember driving in Pittsburgh when I was young and running a red light because the traffic light was off to the right of the intersection on a pole in the sidewalk. If you didn't know it was there, it was easy to miss. Especially in an urban environment with lots of background clutter and other distractions.

[RAMd®d]

It's not that hard if you're driving in a unfamiliar area.

That's all the more reason to actually pay attention rather than drive on auto pilot.

I've seen a few instances of clutter over the years, but those that obscure signs or signals from view of a competent driver have been rare indeed, in my experience, compared to the number of drivers who "don't remember seeing any sign", etc.