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Grotesque in Chief - Trump photo opp with baby whose parents died protecting were murdered by El Paso shooter
#11
unintelligent and apathetic.

Lemon,
It can be risky to assume people are smart and caring. Evidence either way helps, yeah? I merely noted how I could see the wheels of confusion turning with only a few sentences he said. If his statements result in harmony for you, or it's some kind of non sequitur, that's curious.

As for "knowing him," I already said I wanted to know how he felt about Trump's visit. The NPR article predates it.

As for the stress, I guess Tito more easily sorted that out. He's certainly happy standing next to Trump in the photo op. He was back to work in the shop next day after his brother died, "bills had to be paid" and so on. He even said his macho culture allowed the women at home to do the crying. Sounds pretty well buttoned up for him.
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#12
Trump killed that baby's parents just as surely as Charles Manson killed Sharon Tate.
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#13
And while I'm sure some will scream about the Press showing a gotcha moment - the Whitehouse allowed no members of the media to enter the hospital. The photo was tweeted out by the first lady.
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#14
"Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a long-term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a lack of understanding of others' feelings."

Signs and symptoms
People with narcissistic personality disorder are characterized by their persistent grandiosity, excessive need for admiration, and a disdain and lack of empathy for others. These individuals often display arrogance, a sense of superiority, and power-seeking behaviors. Narcissistic personality disorder is different from having a strong sense of self-confidence. This is because people with NPD typically value themselves over others to the extent that they disregard the feelings and wishes of others and expect to be treated as superior regardless of their actual status or achievements . In addition, people with NPD may exhibit fragile egos, an inability to tolerate criticism, and a tendency to belittle others in an attempt to validate their own superiority."

"Therapy is often difficult as people frequently do not consider themselves to have a problem."
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#15
Yep, Tito, the brother of the man killed, was “totally” consoled. He’s good.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/20...ith-trump/
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#16
When talking about this on PBS Newshour today, conservative columnist David Brooks said that this is proof Trump is a sociopath.

I disagree, I think Trump is a psychopath. But then Brooks has the column in the NY Times and I don't
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#17
deckeda wrote:
Yep, Tito, the brother of the man killed, was “totally” consoled. He’s good.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/20...ith-trump/

He needs to be left alone to grieve with his family and not harassed by people because he appeared to express support for the President after the White House invited the family to meet the President and First Lady. He's being bullied. Leave him alone.
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#18
Lemon, please note that HE first sought this exposure out. My sympathies for him fantasizing about it not being controversial, let alone critical, stop right there.

The White House had no idea who he was until after he came forward and expressed a desire to meet with the president. That set in motion two staffers showing up at their house to extend the formal invite.

Not to worry. He's been right there at the auto shop, grieving on customers' cars all week.


If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
-- R. Carter
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#19
deckeda wrote:
Lemon, please note that HE first sought this exposure out. My sympathies for him fantasizing about it not being controversial, let alone critical, stop right there.

The White House had no idea who he was until after he came forward and expressed a desire to meet with the president. That set in motion two staffers showing up at their house to extend the formal invite.

Not to worry. He's been right there at the auto shop, grieving on customers' cars all week.


If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
-- R. Carter

I think this is where personal animosity towards any person with conservative views goes over the edge. Consider the situation of this family. Yes, they are conservatives who supported Trump. So the f#ck what?

After Sandy Hook when Obama visited Newtown he was photographed smiling broadly while holding the infant granddaughter of the murdered school principal. Should Republicans have jumped all over that and all over the parents of the infant who handed the baby to the President? If they did, how would you respond? I can guess.

There is no excuse for anyone to be harassing this family online or otherwise. They are suffering and they didn't do anything wrong.

Save the ire for President Trump and the man who shot the baby's parents. That's who deserves it.

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/08/749099244...storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
As President Trump headed to El Paso on Wednesday and the grieving communities held vigils to mourn the dead, Andre's older brother and father were back at work in the family's auto shop, figuring out how to press on.

"It's gonna be rough without my brother being there," Tito Anchondo told NPR. "We just have to keep moving forward, and that's the reason we're open right now because the bills don't stop and we have jobs here that still need to be finished."

As the country responds and his community reacts to the tragedy, Tito is watching his own family mourn. "My dad is very Mexican macho. He doesn't like to show emotion. I'm sure he's cried by himself," he said. His mother is inconsolable and "just in tears all the time."
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#20
I do make a distinction between “he did something wrong” (which I haven’t claimed) and “I think Trump’s basically OK, so criticism of him —- and me — is wrong (which I think Tito thinks). I’m not clear on why the family’s grief can’t be allowed alongside the political choices they make. He can take all the space and time he needs or wants and of course I’d never claim he shouldn’t do that.

But I grow tired of people willingly step into controversy publicly and then ask, hey, allow our participation in it to be uncontroversial. That is not only unrealistic, it’s unfair to the public who got exposed to it and naturally see a broader picture here.
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