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6 dead, mass shooting
#11
In case anyone is interested in reading beyond soundbites, here's an article which goes into some detail on the killer.

Not too surprising - another person previously known to authorities.
"The man who murdered six people in a busy Sydney shopping centre was a teacher turned male escort who was known to authorities because of previous concerning behaviour including an unusual interest in knives."

All too often, it seems that someone known as the neighborhood weirdo pops a bolt and goes on a killing rampage.

I do think we need red flag laws of some sort to have authorities intervene with such folks, although I'm not too sure what would have happened in this case (since no firearms were involved) - but maybe if the guy was brought in for evaluation/treatment things could have been different?

Regardless, this just drives home that there are nutcases out there - and that everyone should be mentally prepared to encounter one (e.g. be aware of your surroundings and avoid anything/anyone that appears dangerous, think about what you could do (flight-always preferred or fight-do you have the means/training to defend yourself, such as pepper gel).

Anyways, thats my $0.02.
You may now return to your thoughtful discussion bickering over how many guns vs. how many knives are used to kill people.

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#12
pdq wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
Mass murders in Australia are rare, their gun ban had no effect on the number of mass killings.

False.
Yes. The pushback against Australia will continue to be strong by the gunners. Why?

1) Australia is also a former UK colony

2) They speak English

This prevents them from using the '... but the US is TOTALLY different than country Y with sensible gun laws'.
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#13
pdq wrote:
Data:

Homicide rate in Australia (per Wikipedia, 2021): 0.86/100,000.
Homicide rate in US (same source, 2021): 3.8/100,000 - 4.4x higher

Mass murders are not unknown in Australia, but are shocking precisely because they are so rare.

We had 656 mass shootings in 2024. On average, 118 gun deaths each day.

Slipping in suicide numbers is very missleading.
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#14
Smote wrote:
[quote=pdq]
Data:

Homicide rate in Australia (per Wikipedia, 2021): 0.86/100,000.
Homicide rate in US (same source, 2021): 3.8/100,000 - 4.4x higher

Mass murders are not unknown in Australia, but are shocking precisely because they are so rare.

We had 656 mass shootings in 2024. On average, 118 gun deaths each day.

Slipping in suicide numbers is very missleading.
They’re not gun deaths? A lot of folks attempt suicide, but ones that have access to a gun to do so have a higher rate of success than almost any other method.

…and you mispelled (and misused) “misleading”.
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#15
pdq wrote:
[quote=Smote]
[quote=pdq]
Data:

Homicide rate in Australia (per Wikipedia, 2021): 0.86/100,000.
Homicide rate in US (same source, 2021): 3.8/100,000 - 4.4x higher

Mass murders are not unknown in Australia, but are shocking precisely because they are so rare.

We had 656 mass shootings in 2024. On average, 118 gun deaths each day.

Slipping in suicide numbers is very missleading.
They’re not gun deaths? A lot of folks attempt suicide, but ones that have access to a gun to do so have a higher rate of success than almost any other method.

…and you mispelled (and misused) “misleading”.
As defined, "homicide" does not include suicide, but do not see where suicide has been "slipped in" in this thread.

homicide noun
- the killing of one person by another
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