08-06-2015, 11:34 AM
I just don't think the experience is worth $1000.
I don't care how anybody spends their money. Their choice.
But you said someone was suggesting you spend the money to do Apple Pay. And that's just not true, right? People were just talking about how convenient AP is.
An Apple Watch doesn't do much of anything without an iPhone, right?
Well, an Apple Watch does tell time, has alarm and timer functions, uses Passbook and Apple Pay, and has the Activity app functionality, all without the iPhone present, right? And wOS 2.0 will give it more autonomy, right?
So $650+$350 is the correct buy in number right? That's just a lot of dough and even $650 for just the iPhone is a tough sale for Apple Pay adoption. For me personally.
For a lot of people, personally.
But who suggested anyone, let alone you, should go out and get a 'Phone, or a 'Phone and a Watch, just to use Apple Pay? Anybody? No, nobody. Yet you keep bringing that argument up as though as though someone did. That implication has no merit.
I'm guessing that 99% of Watch owners already had a 'Phone, right? So the buy-in for most wasn't $1000. $350 may be too much for some people, but clearly a lot of Watches were sold. One day Apple may tell us exactly how many, but I bet a lot of other smartwatch manufacturers would love to have sold as many as Apple.
Any reason you think personal attacks make the conversation work better? I'm happy to discuss things without the name calling and such.
I called you out on your disingenuous statements. If you see that as personal attacks, so be it. I didn't call you any names in this thread, and only once before, in another thread.
Any reason you think your deliberately mischaracterizing of posts makes the conversation work better?
Recent reports indicate it has been, and may be an uphill battle, not just for Apple, but all the other coming payment systems.
I have no idea what reports those are, or how many of them address the battle as being only Apple's battle. Nonetheless, as NFC payments require NFC capable gear most merchants in the US don't have, it obviously becomes a chicken/egg CD/DVD/HDTV/Blu-Ray adoption problem. Merchants wait for the demand of NFC. Customers wait for the proliferation of NFC terminals, which are hardly ubiquitous.
I never, ever see anybody write a check at the grocery store anymore. Yes, someone, somewhere does. But it's certainly a very small percentage of the population. For very small purchases I see cash transactions about 60-70% of the time. For the weekly shopping, I almost never see anyone pay with cash; it's almost completely credit/debit.
It may be a struggle but there is no doubt in my mind that wireless POS payments will become much more popular, and not a novelty. NFC is not available in most places that I shop, and I won't go very far out of my way to use Apple Pay. But I will use it anywhere I am that supports it. I suspect I'm not alone in my shopping methodology.
I don't care how anybody spends their money. Their choice.
But you said someone was suggesting you spend the money to do Apple Pay. And that's just not true, right? People were just talking about how convenient AP is.
An Apple Watch doesn't do much of anything without an iPhone, right?
Well, an Apple Watch does tell time, has alarm and timer functions, uses Passbook and Apple Pay, and has the Activity app functionality, all without the iPhone present, right? And wOS 2.0 will give it more autonomy, right?
So $650+$350 is the correct buy in number right? That's just a lot of dough and even $650 for just the iPhone is a tough sale for Apple Pay adoption. For me personally.
For a lot of people, personally.
But who suggested anyone, let alone you, should go out and get a 'Phone, or a 'Phone and a Watch, just to use Apple Pay? Anybody? No, nobody. Yet you keep bringing that argument up as though as though someone did. That implication has no merit.
I'm guessing that 99% of Watch owners already had a 'Phone, right? So the buy-in for most wasn't $1000. $350 may be too much for some people, but clearly a lot of Watches were sold. One day Apple may tell us exactly how many, but I bet a lot of other smartwatch manufacturers would love to have sold as many as Apple.
Any reason you think personal attacks make the conversation work better? I'm happy to discuss things without the name calling and such.
I called you out on your disingenuous statements. If you see that as personal attacks, so be it. I didn't call you any names in this thread, and only once before, in another thread.
Any reason you think your deliberately mischaracterizing of posts makes the conversation work better?
Recent reports indicate it has been, and may be an uphill battle, not just for Apple, but all the other coming payment systems.
I have no idea what reports those are, or how many of them address the battle as being only Apple's battle. Nonetheless, as NFC payments require NFC capable gear most merchants in the US don't have, it obviously becomes a chicken/egg CD/DVD/HDTV/Blu-Ray adoption problem. Merchants wait for the demand of NFC. Customers wait for the proliferation of NFC terminals, which are hardly ubiquitous.
I never, ever see anybody write a check at the grocery store anymore. Yes, someone, somewhere does. But it's certainly a very small percentage of the population. For very small purchases I see cash transactions about 60-70% of the time. For the weekly shopping, I almost never see anyone pay with cash; it's almost completely credit/debit.
It may be a struggle but there is no doubt in my mind that wireless POS payments will become much more popular, and not a novelty. NFC is not available in most places that I shop, and I won't go very far out of my way to use Apple Pay. But I will use it anywhere I am that supports it. I suspect I'm not alone in my shopping methodology.