04-03-2024, 07:43 PM
DeusxMac wrote:
:bs:
Even if you are, in fact, part of this collection of military wannabes, a bunch of gun lovers self-proclaiming themselves as such in no way constitute the real “well regulated Militia” of the 2nd Amendment whatsoever!
More like the Proud Boys than the actual National Guard!
https://flmilitia.org/index.html
wowzer wrote: Again, the militia is made up of every US citizen who are NOT in the military. Those who are currently serving are the uniformed military. A militia is comprised of irregulars.
Proof by assertion – a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.
wowzer wrote: As for being a gun lover, what’s wrong with that? There are car lovers, with deaths from car crashes about the same as for all cause gun deaths. There are lovers of wine and alcohol, which kills twice as many by guns. There are people who smoke, which account for 5 times the number for gun deaths.
The fallacious and absurd, but forever trotted out by gun-lovers howl of "guns and cars and alcohol and cigarettes are all the same"!
False equivalence – describing two or more statements as virtually equal when they are not.
wowzer wrote: Then, of course, the fact that violent crimes have dropped over the last 40 years, while gun ownership has increased. While association is not causation, it is telling that ever higher rates of gun ownership doesn’t associate with worsening violent crimes.
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-stat...ost-crime/
Another specious false equivalence; "violent crimes" are not equivalent to gun-related incidents (which include suicides).
wowzer wrote: However, the BLM and antifa riots and defunding of police clearly have association with increased murders and violent crimes.
Bare assertion fallacy – a claim that is presented as true without support, as self-evidently true, or as dogmatically true.