08-05-2009, 01:03 PM
john dough wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
People aren't buying what Obama is selling. You are losing it and you know it. Why? Because we have been down this road before,
When Medicare was being considered in the mid-1960s, the government projected that the outlays for the program 25 years down the road would be $10 billion. Instead, in 1990, 25 years later, the outlays were $107 billion. Government estimates were off by a factor of more than 10!
Medicaid, the other large medical program currently in effect, outdid Medicare. Medicaid outlays in 1968 were $1.8 billion. In 2007 they had risen to $190.6 billion, an increase in dollar terms of 105.9 times.
Not unexpected from people who need a 137 page manual how to buy a used car.
More noise from someone who is determined to shill for the corporations. Most people polled support changing the system, no matter how many times you think they are not.
Almost 3/4 of those polled say so:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/health....html?_r=1
You can pound out your opinions or post skewed results from Fox news or other right wing attack sites, but the facts are things are changing as the path we are currently on is unsustainable. If we do nothing, your costs are not going to get better as the companies will only raise our rates more.
Even if the numbers that you say were valid, it completely pales in the amount that was spent in the last 8 years on 2 wars that directly contributed to many problems we have now. And where did that get us? So some companies can carve out Iraq for their oil business? Where is the money that would be repaid us from all of the money that they are making because of the oil? Last time I checked, Iraq is sitting on a pile of cash while we don't have enough to take care of our own sick.
This country was neglected by Bush and Cheney yet when we did not agree with their ways, we were labeled as bad Americans. The reality was irresponsible spending, blank contracts, missing funds, no-bid contracts to cronies, failure to fully document cash outlays -- how is pointing out that folks were doing rotten make the accuser the bad guy? Your party has no case to point fingers when it comes to money, after the last 8 years of your party in charge. Deny it all you want, that administration was awful and no spin will change their legacy.
You missed mentioning Haliburton, Rumsfeld and WMD. You are slipping.