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I thyink you both might be in for a little surprise. Anybody bother to notice on the youtube video that it was supplied by the "North County Times?"
That's a newspaper in San Diego.
Here's the article. Notice who got arrested, and who the passenger was.
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/escond...c17ee.html
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Grace62 wrote:
I thyink you both might be in for a little surprise. Anybody bother to notice on the youtube video that it was supplied by the "North County Times?"
That's a newspaper in San Diego.
Here's the article. Notice who got arrested, and who the passenger was.
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/escond...c17ee.html
Yes, i read that article before posting my initial comments. I still don't see how ethnicity is implicated in this incident. The activists who perpetrated this stunt clearly oppose checkpoints because they believe unauthorized immigrants are caught using them. That doesn't mean that in carrying out this action they were invoking ethnicity contentiously. It's a few steps of a stretch, as far as i'm concerned, to say that.
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Sorry, don't believe you. If you read the article, your two comments above make no sense at all, unles you are playing dumb to appeal to Dakota, in which case, I think I want off this thread.
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He is not appealing to me. He is opposing me. What are you reading? Actually, it is you who are making my case.
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Dakota,
In your never ending crusade against Hispanics, you post a video that you think fits the bill. You fail to realize that the video you posted is actually of a sting operation by an organization called Alianza Comunitaria that is protesting police tactics at "sobriety checkpoints" in Latino communities, like Escondido.
It's hard to describe how funny I find this.
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Dakota wrote:
...Curious what you think...
What I think:
Careful when you go looking for trouble - you might get your wish...
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Grace62 wrote:
Sorry, don't believe you. If you read the article, your two comments above make no sense at all.
Well, i can't really call upon anything but my reputation to assert my honesty. People will determine for themselves whether i've lied.
I think it's possible that my comments were insufficiently clear? Alianza Comunitaria does have a political agenda regarding police checkpoints and unauthorized immigrants. To the degree that the immigrants represented are Latino, there's an 'ethnic' element to their protest.
However, Dakota's original post indicated that the incident in the video conveyed attitudes of ethnic contention or challenge, and honestly i just don't see that in the video. I think that an identical challenge to the police could have been conducted by two Anglo kids who are members of Alianza Comunitaria to the same end.
If Navarrete and Alfaro had wanted to make the confrontation about ethnicity, they easily could have done so. They could have accused the police of racial profiling, they could have hurled epithets in Spanish, they could have tried to bait the cops into saying something bigoted. But they did no such thing. The were insubordinate and uncooperative and a general PITA to the police, and they reaped the consequences of that behavior. If there's an ethnic element (other than pure subtext derived from their association with Alianza Comunitaria) to the footage, i'm just not seeing it. It doesn't mean it's not there - i'm not an expert. I'm just expressing what i see.
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So you can't tell that they're Hispanic?
That's their point, that the police are using these checkpoints to harass the Latino community, and not for the intended purpose, which is to catch drunk drivers. This driver had a legal driver's license and was sober.
Yes they provoked an arrest, which is how they got in the news, which is their goal, because it leads to an awareness of the situation and possible changes to police policy. Changes that have already been enacted in the county to the north, LA.
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I'm not convinced there's a profit motive or that snatching undocumented immigrants off the street is a significant motive here. Where I live they set up operations like this to effectively cordon off a gang territory when shootings/killings have been going back and forth for a few days. Usually they call them "seat belt checks."
Legality aside, I appreciate any activist effort to try to preserve our constitutional rights.
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Grace62 wrote:
So you can't tell that they're Hispanic?
That's their point, that the police are using these checkpoints to harass the Latino community, and not for the intended purpose, which is to catch drunk drivers. This driver had a legal driver's license and was sober.
Yes they provoked an arrest, which is how they got in the news, which is their goal, because it leads to an awareness of the situation and possible changes to police policy. Changes that have already been enacted in the county to the north, LA.
I refer to the original post:
Dakota wrote:
You can just hear it in their voices. We are hispanics and we dare you lay a finger on us.
I didn't see that in the video. That was my comment. The disobedience may have been a resistance to what they see as misuse of police power, but they didn't invoke ethnicity in that act of protest.
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