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CNN running the story on iPhone shut off technology
#11
Assuming this brief bit on CNN heard in the background is what everyone is assuming it to be…

Nothing is being left "up to Apple". They would be providing a capability that a given venue would decide to implement or not.

It's not a "portable film jammer", it's an electronic 'off' signal that temporarily stifles functions on a cell phone. As for rogue cops, there are still plenty of other ways to make them famous. Plain old digital cameras, still and motion. Eye witness reports tweeted and facebooked and phoned and given to the media. Dust of those film cameras, can't RFID those. The citizen reporter is still a cat very much out of the bag.

And if this is what it might be, what makes you think Apple is the only one working to scratch the itch of this niche if a niche there is? Because it hasn't been on CNN? Yet?
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#12
Had further discussions this evening and the cop thing came up. I can promise you that if they enable this as an option for venues it's gonna get shoehorned into mobile areas such as somethinga cop will be able to implement. Not good. Really... Not good at all.

To suggest people should carry around film cameras instead of something they already have on their person like a cell phone well....
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#13
Whether or not this is what somebody thinks it may be, I'm in the group that doesn't like the idea of someone other than me controlling my 'Phone for any reason.

You want to put a Faraday cage in the walls? Fine as long as you tell me before I go inside. But stay out of my 'Phone.

You want to put a phase-time reality distortion field around your works of art so my 'Phone doesn't record your performance but let's me video somebody snatching a neckless off of a guest? Fine. You don't even have to tell me.

External stuff is one thing. Disabling my 'Phone is totally different.

Now, maybe in a day or more, we'll find out exactly what the issue is.


As for rogue cops, there are still plenty of other ways to make them famous. Plain old digital cameras, still and motion.

Not to mention phones other than the iPhone. And rogue cops are probably the least of anybody's problem, if not paranoia.
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#14
(vikm) wrote:
To suggest people should carry around film cameras instead of something they already have on their person like a cell phone well....
"Well" what? A film camera was only one suggestion, at the far end of a spectrum of options, for any concerned that deprived of the ease and convenience one form of tech we are doomed and at the mercy of cops gone wild.

I must admit to being a bit tickled at the implied incredulity and by the idea that carrying around a pocket film camera just might be too odious a burden for the everyman to bear to carry on the struggle should we fact end up in the imagined RFID fueled dystopian tomorrow that the apple shaped dots apparently lead straight to. :biggrin:
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#15
The reality is that most "citizen reporters" don't roam the streets with a camera, in anticipation of a beating, murder or riot. Some of the most powerful citizen-reported footage of our time was a total surprise to everyone who happened to have a cell phone camera with them.
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#16
I don't like the idea either. If it comes to fruition, hopefully the jailbreaking crew will come out with a hack that defeats it.
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#17
Blankity Blank wrote:
Assuming this brief bit on CNN heard in the background is what everyone is assuming it to be…

Nothing is being left "up to Apple". They would be providing a capability that a given venue would decide to implement or not.

It's not a "portable film jammer", it's an electronic 'off' signal that temporarily stifles functions on a cell phone.

All this was clear from VIKM's original post, no?
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#18
Black wrote:
[quote=Blankity Blank]
Assuming this brief bit on CNN heard in the background is what everyone is assuming it to be…

Nothing is being left "up to Apple". They would be providing a capability that a given venue would decide to implement or not.

It's not a "portable film jammer", it's an electronic 'off' signal that temporarily stifles functions on a cell phone.

All this was clear from VIKM's original post, no? Apparently not, since both concerns were raised in subsequent posts. :biggrin:
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#19
Well, I'd like it just fine if cell phones were crippled in movie theaters, concert halls, and other venues. And if there were a permit to chloroform people who were using them and lock them in a closet.

People survived a millenium without being able to record the music they were seeing performed. It's not a God-given right.
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#20
Have you been to a concert lately? Seems a full third of concert goes are filming the concert with their crappy phone instead of enjoying the music.

I'd much rather create a movement identifying the behavior of video-ing a concert with your phone as a total douchebag move. Then no laws or shut off tech would be necessary.

3P
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