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Yankees lose! Yankees lose! Yankees lose!
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10-07-2011, 11:36 AM
DP wrote: But they still lost. Doesn't matter if they were off their stride-the Yankees had five chances to win and didn't. The Tigers showed they have it and the Yankees don't. Yes they lost. Do the Tigers "have it"? I don't think so. Time will tell.
10-07-2011, 11:43 AM
Pam wrote: Luck is subjective, but I would say the Yankees were "lucky", particularly in games 4 and 5. As I understand it, whether a ground ball rolls for hit is basically luck. The Yankees had repeated ground ball hits the Tigers had essentially none (I can't remember the Yankees hitting into a double play either, which is also largely determined by luck). In the big 6th inning in game 4, the Yankees had 5 or 6 ground ball hits in a row. That almost never happens. In the 7th inning last night, only Granderson had a hit, Jeter and maybe Cano both hit infield hits that the Tigers couldn't quite get a hold of (no errors for the T's all series). The Tigers were and are hotter than the Yankees going in to the series, and were more off then the Yankees. The Tigers have better hitting (Cabrara and Martinez) and better pitching, and that usually leads to good things.
10-07-2011, 01:18 PM
Pam wrote: It's called "choking" in post-season terminology. I'm not totally convinced of that sort of psycho-baseball thinking, but it does seem to happen to teams that are under increased pressure to win.
10-07-2011, 01:32 PM
michaelb wrote: Luck is subjective, but I would say the Yankees were "lucky", particularly in games 4 and 5. As I understand it, whether a ground ball rolls for hit is basically luck. The Yankees had repeated ground ball hits the Tigers had essentially none (I can't remember the Yankees hitting into a double play either, which is also largely determined by luck). In the big 6th inning in game 4, the Yankees had 5 or 6 ground ball hits in a row. That almost never happens. In the 7th inning last night, only Granderson had a hit, Jeter and maybe Cano both hit infield hits that the Tigers couldn't quite get a hold of (no errors for the T's all series). The Tigers were and are hotter than the Yankees going in to the series, and were more off then the Yankees. The Tigers have better hitting (Cabrara and Martinez) and better pitching, and that usually leads to good things. Ground hits have a lot to do with the pitches. The Tigers were constantly trying for low pitches to keep the big hits out of the game. Not surprising there were lots of ground balls. Double plays aren't as lucky as you think either. Pitches with a man on first are designed to send a ball that way. Or at least that's what the pitcher intends. Outside of a strikeout. The Tigers weren't as tested this season. They played some teams with weak offenses that helped their stature. That's why I'm not convinced they have it. Time will tell.
10-07-2011, 01:37 PM
mrbigstuff wrote: It's called "choking" in post-season terminology. I'm not totally convinced of that sort of psycho-baseball thinking, but it does seem to happen to teams that are under increased pressure to win. No, not choking. Not in this series. I think of choking when nerves flair and it throws your game off. Yankees have been off their game since they won the series. Their history works against them as that drive and hunger for postseason wins has been met many times. No doubt they wanted to win. But that extra drive that pushes players to their very best was not there. I think Boston suffered from it all of September. Not sure what was up with the Rays all season.
10-07-2011, 02:02 PM
.......again.....???
.....or are you just YANKing my chain......????
10-07-2011, 02:50 PM
Now I can concentrate 100% on the NHL season, which began last night.
10-08-2011, 12:21 AM
The Yankees l@@ked tired, old and they demonstrated a lack of chemistry in there play this year.
That said, there have been many great Yankee teams through the years... but not this year :priate: Rudie |
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