Frimware password: work on MacBook PRO's as well?

[elmo3]

[quote Polyester Bride]As someone who works both in education and technology, elmo3, your arrogance is not just bothersome on a lack-of-decency level, but also on the people-hate-tech-support-because-of-ignorant-reponses-such-as-yours. If you aren't part of the solution, stay out of it.
You're in education, and you can't even write a proper sentence.

I'm not in education, therefore what you wrote doesn't make any sense. What you meant to say was, "As someone who works both in education and technology, I think your arrogance is not just bothersome..." The "I" that I used refers back to your "someone who works both in education and technology" phrase.

But the way you wrote it, you have elmo3 working in both education and technology. "As someone who works in education, your arrogance sucks". Well, I don't work in education. You do. So write it correctly next time, if you can.

I'm frightened for your students that you work in education and can't write a simple sentence.

As for people hating tech support, it's not because of answers like mine. If I called Apple for tech support on Windows, what answer do you think I'd get? Apple wouldn't answer me; they'd tell me to go to microsoft.com. Just because Windows can run on Macintosh hardware, doesn't mean Apple supports Windows.

Same here. Just because someone is too lazy to go to apple.com and look up some documentation doesn't mean that he should come here or anywhere else and have any expectation that he won't be blasted for being too lazy.

Don't give me that "some people don't know to go to the manufacturer to look it up," like what Kiva says. That's crap.

Education, huh. Man, oh man.

[Polyester Bride]

elmo3, while it would be entertaining to quibble with you over the use of commas, I'd rather suggest you look up the term "ad hominem." Perhaps a class in logic would calm you down.

Again, I suggest that if you don't wish to be part of a solution, stay out of it.

[elmo3]

[quote Polyester Bride]elmo3, while it would be entertaining to quibble with you over the use of commas, I'd rather suggest you look up the term "ad hominem." Perhaps a class in logic would calm you down.

Again, I suggest that if you don't wish to be part of a solution, stay out of it.
I know what ad hominem means.

I addressed your points. He shouldn't come here expecting to be spoon-fed, no matter what.

As for attacking you personally--well, you claimed to be in education, then wrote a very poor sentence. Don't put forth your credentials as being meaningful to your point and then expect people not to call you on it when your behavior belies your credentials.

[Polyester Bride]

My point regarding education and technology had nothing to do with my credentials. My point regarding education and technology was twofold:

1. Education is about helping people, not about shaming them.
2. Making people feel stupid is something that I see technologically saavy people do all the time (very often in educational environments). It does nothing to further anyone's growth.

While I appreciate your point on the appositional nature of my use of "elmo3," my assumption was that you would have understood that I was using it to address you and that my voice in the first phrase was implied. But you are correct, according to the rules of grammar, you are entirely correct. So allow me to try it again in a new sentence:

Elmo3, speaking as someone who works both in education and technology, I would like to tell you that your response to Jerry's question troubles me.

Rules and being right seem important to you. I have no problem with that. I only ask that you don't impose that kind of a focus on someone who is only seeking information in a way different from your own learning style.

[Kiva]

Elmo3: as a rule, in order to get a glimpse into one's psyche, one need only look at the way one deals and treats the outside world. A search for your name on this forum will yield time and time again that you shame and ridicule people on a regular basis. To those of us in the know, we actually have some empathy for you, as we realize that your inner world is one brimming with self-hate and devoid of compassion...and you will do anything to make sure nobody else sees that. Your main defense is to make sure everybody else feels the same way you do.

Now, you will likely make some snide remark about my analysis and conclusions. Only you will know how much truth it holds. In the empty, quiet moments, you have only yourself...nobody else to ridicule and shame. How painful that must be.

then again, if it isn't, then maybe you truly have a character disorder...they'll give anybody a login and pswd to an online forum...wouldn't be the first time.

So, I further maintain that there is absolutely *no* point to you ever posting to this thread. You just have this itch you have to scratch...i wonder from where it originates..?

Also, look at the respected members of this forum and how they are universally revered. PrON comes to mind. Perhaps you should do a search for his handle and see his pattern of dealing with people. You could learn something. However, you'd first have to embrace your self-hate....not sure if you could handle that.

kiva

[Silencio]

[bfd]

… back to the initial question … it's better in the long run to ignore the furry, little, red troll than to feed him.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106482

… check and see if your computer is compatible with OFPP

Computers compatible with Open Firmware Password Protection

Use of the Open Firmware Password Protection and the Open Firmware Password application requires an Apple computer that works with Open Firmware 4.1.7 or 4.1.8 or later, depending on the computer. To determine which version of Open Firmware is installed on your computer, open the Apple System Profiler and see the Production Information section.

[Racer X]

Searching for a direct answer from Apple is difficult at best.

Try and find directions for bringing up the diagnostic menu on an iPod for example. diagnostic menu+iPod doesn't get you the info, therefore the search function isn't written well in my opinion..

[Silencio]

Intel Macs don't have Open Firmware, though. They use EFI. They must have an alternative to Open Firmware password there, but I've no clue how it's implemented.

[elmo3]

[quote Kiva]Elmo3: as a rule, in order to get a glimpse into one's psyche, one need only look at the way one deals and treats the outside world.
OK...

A search for your name on this forum will yield time and time again that you shame and ridicule people on a regular basis.

I thought you said "the outside world". What this forum has to do with me relating to "the outside world," I have no idea.

Are you saying that this forum is "the outside world"? Well, maybe for some people it is; for some people, as we know, it quite literally is their ONLY outside world. But overall, it isn't.

It's quite fallacious to take what you see here and extrapolate that into "looking at how one deals with the outside world".

You might also check out what some of the folks in this "real world" of yours have to say:

http://forums.macresource.com/read/1/111729/111729

To those of us in the know, we actually have some empathy for you, as we realize that your inner world is one brimming with self-hate and devoid of compassion...and you will do anything to make sure nobody else sees that. Your main defense is to make sure everybody else feels the same way you do.

Please show everyone your degree in counseling psychology.

Go ahead, we'll wait. For a minute or two, anyway.

Oh, you don't have one. Well, now we can consider the source of your rant. It's ignorance.

Now, you will likely make some snide remark about my analysis and conclusions. Only you will know how much truth it holds.

no, the whole world does.

I bet you also did engineering consulting down in New Orleans on the side.

In the empty, quiet moments, you have only yourself...nobody else to ridicule and shame. How painful that must be.

So now you know details about my personal life? Wow...and to think, you'd be the first to admit you've never met me.

Your qualifications to make the statements you make become clearer and clearer. That is to say, none.

So, I further maintain that there is absolutely *no* point to you ever posting to this thread.

The "point" was to "point" out where Jerry® can get the information he needs--the direct information, straight from the horse's mouth, without being interpreted like a game of telephone by random people on this forum, and without bothering to ask people here to spoon feed him.

You got a problem with that? He gains the REAL information he needs.

Also, look at the respected members of this forum

See above. You can't take your opinion and project it to everyone else here. When prompted, many admit that they respect me.

You may not like that, but don't worry--I won't let you forget it. Tough.

and how they are universally revered. PrON comes to mind. Perhaps you should do a search for his handle and see his pattern of dealing with people.

I don't really care how he, your, or anyone else deals with people on this forum. If you don't like me (how could you; you don't even know me) or how I handle things here, you could always start your own forum.

Oh--but that would take initiative on your part. Probably would never happen.

You could learn something. However, you'd first have to embrace your self-hate....not sure if you could handle that.

buddy, we're still waiting to see that degree of yours in counseling psychology.

It's amazing how the self-righteous among you are so anxious to judge that you'd pull bogus armchair pop psych out of thin air.