Had a bad dream this morning

[Ombligo]

graylocks wrote:
[quote=DeusxMac]
Russia has absolutely no need to use nukes to overrun Ukraine.

I’ve read that though it was perhaps expedient the US had no need to nuke Japan either.
Isn't hindsight great? :RollingEyesSmiley5:

[Blankity Blank]

The United States? No. NATO, maybe.

My understanding is that Russia, as well as others, are now days equipped with tactical or strategic (I’m still not clear in which is which) arms that fall a shade closer to ‘conventional’ weapons than planet killers.

If that is in fact correct, that makes for a much more complicated discussion.

Try to limit the situation to “only” opening the door to some kind of normalization of these supposed non-doomsday categories of weapons? Or is that just a distinction without any practical difference?

Or conversely, try to slam the door shut with TOTAL scorched earth maximum retaliation on every front, nuclear, cyber, even biological and chemical. In effect setting the price of even dipping a toe in such waters simply nothing less than being scrubbed from the face of the earth?

Is there any middle ground?

Given the way the board is set up, my assumption would be decions have already been made. The boulders have cast their ballots, and it’s too late for us pebbles to vote on the avalanche.

[DeusxMac]

graylocks wrote:
[quote=DeusxMac]
Russia has absolutely no need to use nukes to overrun Ukraine.

I’ve read that though it was perhaps expedient the US had no need to nuke Japan either.
Apples to oranges.
Japan's position and circumstances in the world of 1945 are nowhere the same as the 2022 situation in the Ukraine.

[PeterB]

vision63 wrote:
Nukes is off the table for Russia. That immediately makes it a World War. One that Russia would royally pay for immediately within minutes. Putin would be assassinated in short order.

In the big scheme Russia and China could be in the throes of shifting the world order. But it would have to be conventional because neither country would survive nuclear options.

Russia is just going to keep ratcheting up the destruction to goad the US directly into the fray. The US isn't going to bite, despite many ignorant US citizens desperately wanting us to.

Y'all need to fire up the WOPR and game this thing out.

Shall we play a game?

https://playclassic.games/games/turn-bas...line/play/