Two state solution?

[SteveG]

dk62 wrote:
[quote=Steve G.]
https://apnews.com/video/israel-iran-ira...a37f6c76ed
Worshipers in Iran chant “Death to Israel” hours after suspected drone attack
Worshipers in Tehran chanted slogans against Israel hours after an apparent Israeli drone strike in Iran. It came days after Tehran’s unprecedented drone-and-missile assault on Israel.

Which came after unprecedented Israel's bombing of Iranian diplomatic building in Damascus.

What exactly is your point? How relevant to two-state solution?
You are kidding, aren't you?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2013/11/4...huge-rally

2013
Tens of thousands of demonstrators packed the streets outside the former US embassy in Tehran in the biggest anti-US rally in years, a show of support for hard-line opponents of President Hassan Rouhani’s outreach to Washington.

Crowds of Iranians shouted “death to America” as they marked the 34th anniversary of the takeover of the city’s US embassy, which led to 52 Americans being held hostage for months.

Protesters waved anti-US banners, chanting “death to America” and “death to Israel”, while burning US and Israeli flags. Effigies of the US president, Barack Obama, his secretary of state John Kerry and the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, could be seen held aloft by protesters.

The protests were reported to be the biggest in years, with tens of thousands in attendance, and despite attempts by the US and Iran to thaw diplomatic relations after years of hostility.

[SteveG]

I hope this answers your question dk62
(from the beloved BBC)
2 August 2013
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-23448932
Jerusalem Day in Iran is nominally about Jerusalem. Yet in content it is anything but. The slogans chanted during the rallies organised on Jerusalem Day are primarily "Death to Israel", a refrain that sounds as familiar to Iranian ears as any political slogan can get. The speeches and sermons are a repeat of the same narrative over and over: Israel is a usurper regime - not a country - and as a state, it lacks legitimacy.

[Acer]

There was a time when Muslims "usurped" the entire Mediterranean.

[dk62]

Steve G. wrote:
I hope this answers your question dk62
(from the beloved BBC)
2 August 2013
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-23448932
Jerusalem Day in Iran is nominally about Jerusalem. Yet in content it is anything but. The slogans chanted during the rallies organised on Jerusalem Day are primarily "Death to Israel", a refrain that sounds as familiar to Iranian ears as any political slogan can get. The speeches and sermons are a repeat of the same narrative over and over: Israel is a usurper regime - not a country - and as a state, it lacks legitimacy.

You seem to be stumbling around in a different thread, maybe you should start one about Iran's hatred for US and Israel instead of muddying the discussion about potential two-state solution alternatives.

[SteveG]

I was replying to your view that 'Death to Israel' is a recent phenomenon in Iran. Iran is one of the Islamic terror states/organizations that wish to have no part of a 2 state solution.

[sekker]

I have no idea what the solution is. But anything stable will take courage from many sides.

So long as there are massive external states who benefit from chaos, it's going to be very hard to find an option.

Might take the simultaneous next coming of a shared judeo-muslim prophet like Jacob.

[Ted King]

I doubt we'll hear an Israeli government in anywhere near the near future openly say that they are giving up on a two state solution because as soon as they do, the U.S. is going to ask, "Then what are we (the U.S.) doing here anyway? What's your plan?" Without a two-state solution, what plan could Israel come up with to deal with the Palestinians that an American government would approve of? Hard to see that so I think they'll just keep rolling on with the fiction that they are in favor of a two state solution. (This is more recent; I think there was a time - maybe decades ago - when Israeli governments were okay with two states as long as Israel could be secure.)

[SteveG]

Voting out Netanyahu's crazy crowd, ending Hamas and cleaning up the incredibly corrupt undemocratic Palestinian Authority would certainly be big steps on a path to 2 states.

[RgrF]

Getting rid of Bibi won't make a lot of difference. At this point the rest of Israel has lurched too far right to change course and return to any sort of center path.

From here on out it appears the middle east will be radical element vs radical element with the US helplessly tied to one of those radical elements.

[SteveG]

It's not Netanyahu alone doing this. He has a coalition cabinet filled with unsavory, right wing, bigoted extremists.

I have been telling you about them for years. He has put people in charge of parts of Israel's government that are beyond belief.