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Ah, crap. My TV converter coupons have expired.
#11
[quote Black Landlord]My downstairs neighbor tried to get coupons and was told she couldn't because they'd already been issued to this address (me).
Anyone know a way around that?
Call up your Congressman/woman's constituent services (local office). Seriously. They are trained to deal with penny ante stuff like this, and they sure don't want you spreading bile over a $40 coupon.
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#12
[quote Chupa Chupa][quote Black Landlord]My downstairs neighbor tried to get coupons and was told she couldn't because they'd already been issued to this address (me).
Anyone know a way around that?
Call up your Congressman/woman's constituent services (local office). Seriously. They are trained to deal with penny ante stuff like this, and they sure don't want you spreading bile over a $40 coupon.
Way not worth the effort, but thanks.
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#13
[quote Gareth]If Comcast changes it, that's their decision and has NOTHING to do with the over-the-air digital transition.

Comcast's only obligation is to carry the OTA channels either in analog format (as they are doing now for you), or to provide you with cable boxes to receive the OTA channels.

The converter boxes are only useful to convert the digital over-the-air transmissions to an analog format for older TV's. If you only have cable service and don't have or plan to get an antenna, the converter box will be useless to you.
Thanks for that explanation. Even after countless threads about the transition here, and poring over the dtv site where I applied for the coupons, I was still a bit unsure. So unless my only source for TV is an antenna (outside or rabbit ears), I should be fine? I figured Comcast would use this as an opportunity to force us to rent additional set-top boxes, but as long as I can still connect the coax directly into an older TV and it will work, I'll be okay.
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#14
Verizon (FiOS) will eventually be getting rid of all their analog channels. They have already announced this upcoming change. The only people it will affect are those with NO cable box of any kind, or any CableCard of any kind. It will only affect people who plug their coax cable from the wall directly into the TV. If you have any cable box you will be fine.

I don't know about Comcast, but I would imagine they are on a similar track.
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#15
One reason why I have waited still to 'order' my coupons. I know that I wouldn't of went out and bought a converter right away anyways.
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#16
[quote wurm][quote Gareth]If Comcast changes it, that's their decision and has NOTHING to do with the over-the-air digital transition.

Comcast's only obligation is to carry the OTA channels either in analog format (as they are doing now for you), or to provide you with cable boxes to receive the OTA channels.

The converter boxes are only useful to convert the digital over-the-air transmissions to an analog format for older TV's. If you only have cable service and don't have or plan to get an antenna, the converter box will be useless to you.
Thanks for that explanation. Even after countless threads about the transition here, and poring over the dtv site where I applied for the coupons, I was still a bit unsure. So unless my only source for TV is an antenna (outside or rabbit ears), I should be fine? I figured Comcast would use this as an opportunity to force us to rent additional set-top boxes, but as long as I can still connect the coax directly into an older TV and it will work, I'll be okay. Yes, it will be fine.
I don't know how good you "Pore", but this is mentioned by at least one person in every thread mentioning the Convertor Boxes.

BGnR
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#17
[quote BigGuynRusty]
I don't know how good you "Pore"...

BGnR
Evidently, not well enough.
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#18
[quote wurm][quote BigGuynRusty]
I don't know how good you "Pore"...

BGnR
Evidently, not well enough. Was Not meant as a slam, honest!
But here is the nitty-gritty info.:
The cable company must either provide an analog signal, or a FREE cable box for their first tier customers.
Any signal the cable company pulls out of the air (OTA aka, local Broadcast Channels) for free, must be provided to the customer for free. This includes your local broadcast HD Channels. If you have an ATSC tuner, you can receive the Clear QAM channels by hooking your ATSC Tuner directly to the Cable Company Coax, but the Cable Company does not provide any guide info as the OTA signal does, also the channel assignments can move at any time, forcing you to do a channel scan.

BGnR
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#19
[quote BigGuynRusty][quote wurm][quote BigGuynRusty]
I don't know how good you "Pore"...

BGnR
Evidently, not well enough. Was Not meant as a slam, honest!
But here is the nitty-gritty info.:
The cable company must either provide an analog signal, or a FREE cable box for their first tier customers.
Any signal the cable company pulls out of the air (OTA aka, local Broadcast Channels) for free, must be provided to the customer for free. This includes your local broadcast HD Channels. If you have an ATSC tuner, you can receive the Clear QAM channels by hooking your ATSC Tuner directly to the Cable Company Coax, but the Cable Company does not provide any guide info as the OTA signal does, also the channel assignments can move at any time, forcing you to do a channel scan.

BGnR
Just so I understand in real layman's terms...

If my local cable company, Comcast here in Seattle, gets their local programming feeds from an over the air antenna directly from the stations, they need to feed me that signal for free over their coax? And if I need a converter box to see those channels, they are required to provide it for free?
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#20
[quote Racer X][quote BigGuynRusty][quote wurm][quote BigGuynRusty]
I don't know how good you "Pore"...

BGnR
Evidently, not well enough. Was Not meant as a slam, honest!
But here is the nitty-gritty info.:
The cable company must either provide an analog signal, or a FREE cable box for their first tier customers.
Any signal the cable company pulls out of the air (OTA aka, local Broadcast Channels) for free, must be provided to the customer for free. This includes your local broadcast HD Channels. If you have an ATSC tuner, you can receive the Clear QAM channels by hooking your ATSC Tuner directly to the Cable Company Coax, but the Cable Company does not provide any guide info as the OTA signal does, also the channel assignments can move at any time, forcing you to do a channel scan.

BGnR
Just so I understand in real layman's terms...

If my local cable company, Comcast here in Seattle, gets their local programming feeds from an over the air antenna directly from the stations, they need to feed me that signal for free over their coax? And if I need a converter box to see those channels, they are required to provide it for free? Sorry, the Box Rental is Not Free. The words are "Box Rental", they are not charging for the "Free" HD Channels, they are only renting you equipment, extra services are extra money.
The Free HD (mostly Broadcast, and PublicTV) Channels, are Free.
Your NTSC Tuner, when connected directly to the Cable Company Coax will pick up the crappy analog signals the Cable Company provides.
If you have an ATSC Tuner, it will decode the Clear QAM signal.

BGnR
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