How does a good designer compete with THIS?

[colonel panic]

This would be a nice place for directions and a Map

[deckeda]

Sounds as if whomever put up the site is equally "pleased" with the arrangement. My guess is that this isn't the work of a paid designer, or unpaid designer. Probably just a formerly-innocent person caught in the middle. Now, this Ron guy --- he's the owner who turned down the legit bid? --- he sure seems like a piece of work.

If Ron would send me some wonderful text maybe in word format I could add it to his site in this location.

Blah Blah Blah Blah and more Blah If I had something to say here I would but I think you guys could come up with a much better solution. All Hot women please call Ron at 555-1234. Don't wait he is not getting any younger. ...

[Seacrest]

That site just needs to function reasonably well.
As long as its customers can find the right screw for the right job, add it to a cart and pay for it, everybody's happy.

I am concerned that whoever is programming the site seems as clueless of that discipline as they are of visual design, though.

[DRR]

bazookaman wrote:
I've got a few friends who fancy themselves decent designers. And being a designer myself, i would agree. But i wonder how we are supposed to compete when a buddy of mine gives a REALLY good quote to a potential client and the guy turns around and goes THIS route instead... http://goperfspec.com/. He MUST have gotten it free.

Simple. Just be a good designer. Do good work and protect it. Leave the lowballers and other s#itty clients for the posers.