Have you guys seen the new Camaro yet? (bandwidth)

[Rick-o]

I like it a lot. They must be selling well, as I seem to notice quite a few of them on the road lately.

Is zat you reflecting off the fender, dk? :-)

[decay]

not me in the fender; it's my cousin.

my iKid is in the driver's seat, though.

[davester]

I agree with surfrider...the proportions are all wrong. I especially dislike the squashed greenhouses on these recent american retro-vehicles.

[jdc]

its a clear example of why GMs design dept needs to be totally scrapped?

"concept" is designed without backup lights:



so someone says -- ooopps, we need backup lights... where do you want them? ohh, i dunno, how about smack dab in the middle of the bumper?


wtf? is that the best you can do?

reminds me of my dads old astro van -- looked like someone designed the dash without the steering wheel on, cause you couldnt see any of the switches or whatever -- they were behind the wheel...

[miK.]

Seacrest wrote:
" It's a piece a shite! It's a Cadillac, it's an XLR. Go look at the Dodge Challenga!"

This ain't Hot Rod magazine, pal. :biggrin:

I like the prank call they did using Ronnie's quotes too (language)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBqZ6eH1Mig

[M A V I C]

I kinda like it. Much better than the stuff GM has been pumping out.

Greenhouse gases.... well, people burn those all sorts of ways. Cars are just one.

Backup lights... tough to say. They could have designed it so that the taillights had clear lenses and red LEDs. Then white LEDs inside. Maybe that cost too much so they can to cut the concept. That said, jdc, how often do you design a concept that doesn't match the final output? Yeah, I know they could have done it better, but I can bet you've had to make design adjustments at the last minute that messed up a design. I love it when legal disclaimers get added 10 minutes before the files go to press.

Proportions... the car is a little tall, but it's not supposed to be a replica. I think overall it looks pretty good. I've seen a few in person. They look much better than many other cars being made today.

Is it really based on an XLR? I thought the XLR was based on the Corvette.

[deckeda]

Right, the recently-killed XLR was from the 'Vette platform. This one is different.

[RAMd®d]

I like it a lot.

The '69 SS "real deal" was a piece of stripped down crap with bad seats and a big engine.

The current SS is a lot more car and would easily eat the '69 SS's lunch. In this case, the "they don't build 'em like they used to" is a blessing.

I don't like the gauges on the console though. I didn't like them in '67 either. I don't care for the hood "scoop" either, a little boxy for my taste. But I like the car a lot.

In a car with a lot of grunt, sticks are for kids. I'll take a solid A/T any day. The modern equivalent of a TH400 is just fine with me.

Yeah, the styling is different that the 60's version. But this isn't the 60's any more and I'm OK with that.

[AAA]

davester wrote:
I agree with surfrider...the proportions are all wrong. I especially dislike the squashed greenhouses on these recent american retro-vehicles.

VOOD - Hey man, do you even HAVE these across the pond?

Photos don't do them justice.

These things are like HOT WHEELS ( or is it Match Box?) cars to da' kids. Kids being 40 years old that is. They are SUPER COOL. And get great FE (fuel efficiency for what they are)

Don't knock em till you see them.

Just saying.

[AAA]

jdc wrote:
its a clear example of why GMs design dept needs to be totally scrapped?

"concept" is designed without backup lights:



so someone says -- ooopps, we need backup lights... where do you want them? ohh, i dunno, how about smack dab in the middle of the bumper?


wtf? is that the best you can do?

reminds me of my dads old astro van -- looked like someone designed the dash without the steering wheel on, cause you couldnt see any of the switches or whatever -- they were behind the wheel...

Funny. This weekend I just spent time with one (now FORMER) GM light/lens/bulb designer. At GM (Guide) he would work on a handful of cars at any one time. I personally think the Camaro is 'spot on' for what they were trying to achieve. Challenger styling is nice, but they did not have the chassis for their intended application. Mustang is, well a mustang. Never though highly of them at all even though one of my avatars on the web is Mr. Shelby.