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Where the stuff really hits the fan as far as medical costs go is when you start to address the issue of how much medical care is enough at the end of life. A 93 year old relative of mine in failing health fell and broke his hip. He received a hip replacement courtesy of Uncle Sam (you and me). If anyone tries to raise this issue, they are accused of advocating "Death Squads."
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Ammo wrote: If anyone tries to raise this issue, they are accused of advocating "Death Squads."
I don't think that is quite right. There is no infinite amount of health care. I think everyone knows that. There has to be some sort of rationing. Right now, that rationing is if the person can afford it. The problem with that is that people then use that reasoning as a bludgeon for class warfare or discrimination. "Just because that person is richer than I am doesn't mean that they should get better health care." If the country goes to a single payer system, that rationing is no longer who can achieve it and afford it but what panel determines who qualifies for a certain procedure. Those panels are the "death panels."
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Ammo wrote:
Where the stuff really hits the fan as far as medical costs go is when you start to address the issue of how much medical care is enough at the end of life. A 93 year old relative of mine in failing health fell and broke his hip. He received a hip replacement courtesy of Uncle Sam (you and me). If anyone tries to raise this issue, they are accused of advocating "Death Squads."
My ex-wife's grandfather had HIS hip replaced at our expense, when he was critically ill, and he died 3 days later.
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Racer X wrote:
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Where the stuff really hits the fan as far as medical costs go is when you start to address the issue of how much medical care is enough at the end of life. A 93 year old relative of mine in failing health fell and broke his hip. He received a hip replacement courtesy of Uncle Sam (you and me). If anyone tries to raise this issue, they are accused of advocating "Death Squads."
My ex-wife's grandfather had HIS hip replaced at our expense, when he was critically ill, and he died 3 days later.
Well, that is a bit silly isn't it?
Healthcare and education should be free and universal. Everybody should expect to be well educated and healthy in body. How else can a country prosper unless it's citizenry is sound?
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Is that like the people on death row who get free life saving surgery so we can then kill them at our leisure?
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Racer X wrote:
My ex-wife's grandfather had HIS hip replaced at our expense, when he was critically ill, and he died 3 days later.
Your posts are generally good ones Racer X, but that story sounds fishy. There's no way that any competent doctors would be performing unrelated surgery on someone who was critically ill. It's far too dangerous.
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Manlove wrote: Healthcare and education should be free and universal. Everybody should expect to be well educated and healthy in body. How else can a country prosper unless it's citizenry is sound?
Anything that is universal and free is abused and taken for granted. Without trying to sound argumentative, how is there any way possible to provide universal and free education and health care without bankrupting the country?
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No, they're not. Honestly, they're not. Doctors get kickbacks on them and they claim it's the lawyers but it's not.
You've never heard of defensive medicine? When I said "legally require", I didn't mean the law required those. I meant that the doctor has to do everything to prevent the patient from suing the practice.
I am sticking to my guns. The doctor has to do everything to make sure the expensive equipment at the hospital (s)he is associated with gets lots of use and makes lots of money.
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davester wrote:
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My ex-wife's grandfather had HIS hip replaced at our expense, when he was critically ill, and he died 3 days later.
Your posts are generally good ones Racer X, but that story sounds fishy. There's no way that any competent doctors would be performing unrelated surgery on someone who was critically ill. It's far too dangerous.
I'll send you his name, his son's name and both his grand daughters' phone numbers in a PM, and you can call them. The fact that his son's wife (my ex mother-in-law) is a nurse, and argued against it meant nothing.
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America would not have all those prisoners if it were not for the obscene profits
generated by the War on Drugs. Many major U.S. companies now get a piece of the pie, supplying the numerous police agencies and associated services.
Which explains why the "corrections industry" is now a $50,000,000,000 business in the U.S.
btw, in some cities the bail-bond financier is the unseen, political "godfather".
{$$ talks, BS walks}
imo, Mr. Verone should have held-up a US Post Office, unarmed of course.
Don't think the Feds would kick the case to a state prosecution.
Plea deal to 3 years @ Club Fed and then retire :judge:
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