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How much is the full retail for the 6 & 6 Plus?
#21
I see that there are still distinct GSM and CDMA models, so the "device only" Verizon model is probably the way to go for those who pay full price and want the widest carrier compatibility.
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#22
I think you folks are missing that the out of contract iPhone 6 (16GB) is the same price as the 5S just was...$650, the 5S is now $100 less at $550, and the 5C is now $450.

Still a lot of dough, but the the baseline for the 6 is the same, and everything else came down.
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#23
Lew Zealand wrote:
[quote=Black]
[quote=silvarios]
[quote=Black]
I like the new phones-- I decided almost immediately I am going to switch to iPhone when I can get a 64 GB in the Galaxy-S3-copy-size for $200 or less used/no contract.

Wait, that will be never. As far as I know, the iPhone has never dropped to that price point off contract. The original iPhone 4GB may have been $250ish, but I think those were refurbs. Maybe in three years a used iPhone will cost $200.
A used iPhone has never dropped to $200? Huh
Used iPhone - $99

"never"
Did no one actually read my post? A "no contract" iPhone has never been $200. However, a top of the line iPhone generally takes two or three years to hit $200 on the used market. A "/" can mean or, right? It would be redundant for it to mean "and" since a used phone will of course come without a contract.
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#24
silvarios wrote:
[quote=Black]
I like the new phones-- I decided almost immediately I am going to switch to iPhone when I can get a 64 GB in the Galaxy-S3-copy-size for $200 or less used/no contract.

Wait, that will be never. As far as I know, the iPhone has never dropped to that price point off contract. The original iPhone 4GB may have been $250ish, but I think those were refurbs. Maybe in three years a used iPhone will cost $200.
It will be never (new with no contract) or like you said, 2-3 years from now.

i would not buy a 2-4 year old iPhone for $200, even off contract.

that's like buying a 3 year old Mac, but worse, as those are very usable for 3-5 years. iPhones feel slow and don't hold a good charge after 2 years, in my experience.
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#25
silvarios wrote:
[quote=Lew Zealand]
[quote=Black]
[quote=silvarios]
[quote=Black]
I like the new phones-- I decided almost immediately I am going to switch to iPhone when I can get a 64 GB in the Galaxy-S3-copy-size for $200 or less used/no contract.

Wait, that will be never. As far as I know, the iPhone has never dropped to that price point off contract. The original iPhone 4GB may have been $250ish, but I think those were refurbs. Maybe in three years a used iPhone will cost $200.
A used iPhone has never dropped to $200? Huh
Used iPhone - $99

"never"
Did no one actually read my post? A "no contract" iPhone has never been $200. However, a top of the line iPhone generally takes two or three years to hit $200 on the used market. A "/" can mean or, right? It would be redundant for it to mean "and" since a used phone will of course come without a contract.
Can't argue with that...
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#26
decay wrote:
[quote=silvarios]
[quote=Black]
I like the new phones-- I decided almost immediately I am going to switch to iPhone when I can get a 64 GB in the Galaxy-S3-copy-size for $200 or less used/no contract.

Wait, that will be never. As far as I know, the iPhone has never dropped to that price point off contract. The original iPhone 4GB may have been $250ish, but I think those were refurbs. Maybe in three years a used iPhone will cost $200.
It will be never (new with no contract) or like you said, 2-3 years from now.

i would not buy a 2-4 year old iPhone for $200, even off contract.

that's like buying a 3 year old Mac, but worse, as those are very usable for 3-5 years. iPhones feel slow and don't hold a good charge after 2 years, in my experience.
I've been using a 2011 Galaxy S Fascinate that I paid $30 for since January. Sounds like you're saying a 3 year old iPhone wouldn't serve my needs?
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#27
Marc Anthony wrote:
An iPad Air has considerably "more case" and only lacks the cell radio—which is probably a $50 part—yet the 6+ is more expensive. While it looks like a really nice phone, the pricing is absurd.

Different class of devices. The iPad has always been cheaper than the flagship iPhone. The bump to the mobile data model is usually $129, not $50. I wouldn't buy a mobile data iPad either, too expensive and I already own a phone capable of sharing my Internet connection. I find the iPhone hideously expensive and won't be buying a new model, but for some reason davester thought a big phone would be cheaper than a small one given the same specs. I don't know how that would be possible unless you cut down the specs.
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#28
Lew Zealand wrote:
64GB 7.9" iPad Mini retina w/cellular - $729
64GB 5.5" iPhone 6+ no contract - $850

Well, the iPhone 6+ makes calls, has a faster processor, does NFC, and other odds n ends and is smaller. I suppose that could mean $121 to many people.

Both are pretty pricey. I can't imagine budgeting for either. Give me a Moto G with 64GB SD card, a Pebble, and a Nexus 7 for less than the price of either.
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#29
to be fair, an iPhone 4S is still a good smart phone.
battery replacement is reasonably cheap.

swappa.com has them in EX condition for $200, and some are 32 GB, which is nice.

iPhone 5 on swappa run around $300, again some are 32 GB.

those are ATT variations, didn't check other carriers.

to answer your question, if bottom line cost is Very Important™ then a 3 year old iPhone (the 4s) or 2 year old (the 5) isn't a bad choice.
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#30
numbered wrote:
[quote=rgG]
The only one the Apple Store sells without a contract is the TMobile version

Anybody know why this is? I guess in the short term they are probably making the carriers happy with early inventory. And I know that TMobile has an uncarrier attitude so they are the only launch customer.

But why does Apple not happily sell the other phones full price in the store?
I believe that they will sell the other carrier no contract phones, just not at launch. I got my no contract, unlocked, iPhone 5 about 3 months after the phone was released.
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