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[quote sscutchen]BTW... The 500 is a Volvo under the skin.
Do you have proof of that? I'm aware of the Volvo/Ford relationship but I didn't know it ran as deep as Ford-branded Volvos. If this is true the 500 moves near the top of the list for our next new car purchase.
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Oh yes, Ford-branded Volvos. All over the line. Hadn't heard that about the 500, but others, sure.
All that tells me is that Volvos are crap, not that Fords are good.
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There are these great little all wheel drive Station Wagons made by a company called Subaru, perhaps you have heard of them...
Ford has not built a really good CAR since 1969. if it weren't for their pickup trucks the company would have died a long time ago.
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Hopefully they will boost the power. Small engine only equals good gas mileage when you take it easy. If you hammer it, it will be as or more inefficient than a larger more powerful engine.
I heard rumors that Ford was going to intro a diesel (somewhere in the 4.4L range) that would be available in the Expedition, F150 and Land Rover. Word was that the epa estimates for the Expedition where 20/24 with the diesel. Power and torque ratings were supposed to compare favorably with the 5.4L gas engine. I think that this might boost sales if the cost for the engine was well controlled.
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The 500 seems like a good car. But with only 200hp the press didn't really like the car.
They like the Charger with the Hemi, even though I imagine most Chargers are sold with the V6.
Even Toyota has learned to drop the hot rod (260+hp) 3.5L V6 in RAV4, Camry, etc. Again I think most sales are the 4 banger.
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Harbour,
Subaru makes a good car. I've considered buying one on many an occasion. Nonetheless, it's nice to see a larger sedan with all-wheel drive and the 500 is a solid choice in its class. Not the only choice or necessarily the best choice but a solid model overall. Nothing wrong with that.
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[quote elmo3][quote robfilms]i would love for ford to turn the 500 into a stationwagon that seats 7 forward facing passengers.
Dude, they've done that. It's called the Freestyle.
What's happened, for those who aren't paying attention, is that the station wagon market is still alive--but for some reason, the marketers have decided that what people want are an "SUV". So instead of building a conventional station wagon version of a car, they lift it a few inches and give it an SUV look.
But in the end, what they're doing is taking the sedan platform and building a wagon version of it.
The Freestyle is as much a station wagon as a Mac Mini is a Dell Inspiron. Ditto with the Subaru Outback, which is actually categorized as a "light truck" by the feds. Those things are "crossover" vehicles and are little more than SUVs built onto car platforms. I have no need for any rollover-prone vehicle with unnecessary high ground clearance. I think I have been on two unpaved roads in my entire life and have made it through blizzards in FWD cars just fine.
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Poochies,
You didn't account for the human factor. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind the primary reason an SUV (or any vehicle with a higher center of gravity) rolls over is the individual behind the wheel.
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Bring back some great names like Model T & A.
Fairlane, etc.
