Way to go Obongo!

[Dennis S]

kd wrote:
[quote=mattkime]
[quote=kd]
There are several reasons, but probably the one most important to me is that I prefer to pay my own way.

What does that mean? Pay retail? It means pay for my own health care in the conventional way, via insurance premiums, deductibles and co-pays, rather than getting it "for free" via other taxpayers.
You're as bad as swampy, then.

"I have my own health care covered and to hell with 50 million other people."

You people make me sick.

[mattkime]

I'm impressed that anyone could find a moral high ground in paying for medical services.

That said, you're avoiding the exchanges to your own detriment, more power to you.

kd wrote:
[quote=mattkime]
[quote=kd]
There are several reasons, but probably the one most important to me is that I prefer to pay my own way.

What does that mean? Pay retail? It means pay for my own health care in the conventional way, via insurance premiums, deductibles and co-pays, rather than getting it "for free" via other taxpayers.

[kd]

$tevie wrote:
[quote=kd]
[quote=AllGold]
[quote=kd]
Also, it looks like the only plan that will be offered to me on the exchange is Medicaid, which is not appealing to me.

So you're being offered 100% comprehensive coverage for which you will pay nothing. Why is that not appealing to you?
There are several reasons, but probably the one most important to me is that I prefer to pay my own way.
You're not making a whole lot of sense here. The only plan available to you is Medicaid? Why?
I won't know for sure until the exchange is actually working, but according to other sources, unless I lie about my income, the only plan offered to me on the exchange will be Medicaid. That's because my income is between 100% and 139% of the poverty line, and my state has opted for expanded Medicaid coverage. If I don't want that, I can of course choose from any number of unsubsidized plans (but not the one I have now).

I don't mean to be rude, but your story is very squishy and incomplete. You keep coming back and dropping another cryptic bread crumb as to why you are in this supposed situation.

I'm not just cruising by and dropping unsolicited bread crumbs. This all started by a simple lament that I was not allowed to keep my current plan. Nobody seems to believe that, but if you google around, you'll see that there are many people in this boat. It's not mysterious and it's definitely not impossible. Anyway, since my original post I've just been responding to the questions posed to me. It was not my intent to write an essay about my situation.

If you would spell it out clearly, not only would it make more sense but someone here could possibly assist you in figuring out why you are having what is essentially an impossible problem.

I'm not looking for any assistance and don't require any. I don't mind answering questions, but my impression is basically that everybody here thinks I'm lying or trolling. What is it you want to know? What is it that you don't think makes sense?

[kd]

davester wrote:
Which one of those requirements can't your current plan meet. Those are the only ACA requirements that can keep your plan from being grandfathered.

You missed one: "Grandfathered plans are those that were in existence on March 23, 2010 and have stayed basically the same." My plan is not grandfathered because it was not in effect on or before that date.

[AllGold]

kd,

I don't doubt that the plan you had will be dropped. But in your original post you said you could only choose between "worse" offerings. I don't think that is the case. Maybe you don't like some aspects of the new plan but I don't think you can say it's worse in the way of decreased coverage overall (maybe bits and pieces, like certain Rx coverage).

If you don't mind me asking, what specifically do you think is inferior (your word) to what you have now?

[kd]

Dennis S wrote:
You're as bad as swampy, then.

Screw 50 million other people. I want to buy my own insurance at inflated prices and be subject to being dropped if I get the hiccups.

All I said is that I can afford to pay my own way and prefer to do so. Your insult is unwarranted and unsupported by anything except your own bigotry. What turned you into such a raving hater?

[davester]

kd wrote: This all started by a simple lament that I was not allowed to keep my current plan.

Simple lament my ass. You are able to give no reason why your plan will not be continued but you are insistent that is because "some farging politician maroons decided they know better".

Insurance companies change their plans and rates every year, and have done so for decades. In fact you just stated in the preceding post that your current plan didn't even exist a few years ago, thus undermining your own argument. The changed plans by your carrier could possibly be due to Obamacare requirements, they could be due to changes desired by the insurer, or some other reason. You have no idea, but you seem to have no interest in determining the facts before deciding who is behind the change. You are just a sheep who's swallowed the tea party propaganda line hook, line and sinker. Have a lovely time living in your fact-free fantasy land.

[davester]

double post

[vision63]

kd is having a battle with his/her pride. I'm sorry but if you "qualify" for Medicaid you need this. Get over it and get the healthcare that you deserve and need. I'm sure you've never been able to escape a penny of tax money over the course of your life. Quit worrying about unnecessary things and make the most of the opportunities that presents itself on your behalf. You're finally getting a break. Enjoy it. You earned it.

[kd]

mattkime wrote:
I'm impressed that anyone could find a moral high ground in paying for medical services.

That said, you're avoiding the exchanges to your own detriment, more power to you.

It's not about a moral high ground, though. For example, I fully support Medicaid for those who require it; I don't want to see anybody have to do without health care, and I don't feel morally superior to somebody who can't afford it.

It's simply a part of my personality that I'm not comfortable leaning on anybody for anything, just as I'm not comfortable with other people (e.g. politicians) substituting their judgment for my own.