Normally I'm all for helping those in need but I have read this article and well...

[graylocks]

WoW! vision63 thank you so much for sharing your story with us. i'm still tearing up. i salute your courage for how you have lived and your willingness to post about it. you have shot far, far up in my respect and esteem.

my childhood was not as harsh as yours but if we had lived in the same city we might have been neighbors. i think our moms would have liked each other.

[vision63]

graylocks wrote:
WoW! vision63 thank you so much for sharing your story with us. i'm still tearing up. i salute your courage for how you have lived and your willingness to post about it. you have shot far, far up in my respect and esteem.

my childhood was not as harsh as yours but if we had lived in the same city we might have been neighbors. i think our moms would have liked each other.

This is why "I know" what an awesome mother you are. I'm sure our Mom's would have been friends. Helen is a fun, warm, intelligent woman.

[$tevie]

vision63 wrote:
[quote=Grateful11]
I guess it would have been best if I had not brought any of this up at all.

vision63 thanks for your very moving insight into your life. It took courage to put that on here.

I'll admit I've never known anyone that has had to live in the "system". It seems like a world away from
the world I've lived in and so I apologize for any feelings I may have hurt or toes I may have stepped on.
The world I grew up was far from being affluent that's for sure. Having worked with my hands as a skilled
laborer I've never was without work during my entire career. I better let this one go, I've obviously said
too much already.

What you said was genuine, honest and open. Everything you said were legitimate expressions of thought. We already know that you are a good good person. A thoughtful loving family man. We all have great respect and love for you. Like Hal said, what you said is what we want to hear. Honesty. Dialog.
You are two of my most favorite posters here and I'm glad to hear any opinions you care to express, even ones that I don't agree with. I think of both of you as caring and compassionate people and I'm glad to "know" both of you.


Vision, I'd like to add my voice to the thank yous for your story. I still remember when you posted about your Mom a year or two ago, and how she impressed me then as a very special person. As are you.

[Todd's keyboard]

Thanks for the thread and the stories.

Two of the concepts that come up in the child development courses I teach are "resilience" and "grit". I suspect parts of these stories will make their ways into class discussions. (While keeping identities private.)

thanks again, Todd's keyboard

[vision63]

$tevie wrote:
[quote=vision63]
[quote=Grateful11]
I guess it would have been best if I had not brought any of this up at all.

vision63 thanks for your very moving insight into your life. It took courage to put that on here.

I'll admit I've never known anyone that has had to live in the "system". It seems like a world away from
the world I've lived in and so I apologize for any feelings I may have hurt or toes I may have stepped on.
The world I grew up was far from being affluent that's for sure. Having worked with my hands as a skilled
laborer I've never was without work during my entire career. I better let this one go, I've obviously said
too much already.

What you said was genuine, honest and open. Everything you said were legitimate expressions of thought. We already know that you are a good good person. A thoughtful loving family man. We all have great respect and love for you. Like Hal said, what you said is what we want to hear. Honesty. Dialog.
You are two of my most favorite posters here and I'm glad to hear any opinions you care to express, even ones that I don't agree with. I think of both of you as caring and compassionate people and I'm glad to "know" both of you.


Vision, I'd like to add my voice to the thank yous for your story. I still remember when you posted about your Mom a year or two ago, and how she impressed me then as a very special person. As are you.
Well you know how I feel about you. I got your back as your fan.

[vision63]

Todd's keyboard wrote:
Thanks for the thread and the stories.

Two of the concepts that come up in the child development courses I teach are "resilience" and "grit". I suspect parts of these stories will make their ways into class discussions. (While keeping identities private.)

thanks again, Todd's keyboard

To me, you really develop the true nature of your character via adversity. How you handle it is burnished in your functional mind. Facing an onslaught head on and even suffering the consequences is usually better than trying to avoid it or the pain of it.