Idaho lawmakers pass bill to kill most of state's wolf population

[sekker]

kj wrote:
[quote=RgrF]
How many Idaho losers do you have?

We're holding steady since so many former public employees are picking up their pension checks and running for the hills. The state of Idaho would go down as fast as the Titanic if Cal state pension program ever went under.

Sorry, but Idaho was awesome pre-Californian. Californians effed up California, and now they're here effing it up real good. There's a long history of Californians stinking it up in Idaho. You can have them all back. You're welcome.

Ranchers aren't really the bad guys. They often have a hard life, and when they can't make it, Californians build condos on the land that was once a ranch full of wildlife. Development is the enemy, not ranching.
I was thinking the comments were about Idaho citizens lost in CA...

[kj]

sekker wrote:
[quote=kj]
[quote=RgrF]
How many Idaho losers do you have?

We're holding steady since so many former public employees are picking up their pension checks and running for the hills. The state of Idaho would go down as fast as the Titanic if Cal state pension program ever went under./quote]

Sorry, but Idaho was awesome pre-Californian. Californians effed up California, and now they're here effing it up real good. There's a long history of Californians stinking it up in Idaho. You can have them all back. You're welcome.

Ranchers aren't really the bad guys. They often have a hard life, and when they can't make it, Californians build condos on the land that was once a ranch full of wildlife. Development is the enemy, not ranching.

I was thinking the comments were about Idaho citizens lost in CA...
Maybe I misunderstood the bolded above. You'll have to forgive me since we're infested with retired California state employees. I'm sure they're all nice people, but the effects have been less than awesome.

[kj]

Lemon Drop wrote:
If only we could somehow let wolves know which states or regions will support their survival, and which want to exterminate them like their great grandparents did a century ago because they've bought into myths and political BS.


Wolf reintroduction to the Northern Rockies is the most successful and important wildlife conservation achievement in American history.

Or maybe they wish we would make up our mind. Why did we spend all the money to put them there, just so we can spend millions to get rid of them? Crazy, it seems. I have yet to see actual numbers on what the wolves were actually taking from ranchers, etc. But it's hard to imagine it was all that bad. I really don't know what the "real" reason is. It came out of nowhere.

[PeterB]

pdq wrote:
This strikes me as one of those “pwn the libs” things. It’s about all that Repubs have left at this point to excite their base, beyond making up stories like Biden’s-gonna-confiscate-yer-cheezburger.

Here in MN, they’ve made a nice comeback. We don’t have a ton of ranching in northern MN, and the native tribes have been supportive of the conservation efforts.

What we do have too many of (IMO, and as I understand) is deer. And the wolves will help that.

The story you linked, made me curious enough to find out more about something they referenced in the article... and so I found this, which had a better/fuller explanation, and also raises the question of why we can't have the wisdom of the Ojibwe:

"For the Ojibwe, ma’iingan figures prominently in a creation story that Merhar knows well. Original man, the last living being placed on Earth by the Creator, was directed to travel across the land and name all the plants, animals and natural features. In time, original man became lonesome and requested a companion. The Creator sent ma’iingan and together they walked the earth until they had discovered everything."


https://northernwilds.com/culture-prophe...le-wolves/

[btfc]

“ Fact-Checking Idaho’s Wolf Eradication Law “


https://www.outsideonline.com/2422854/fa...b-121-bill

[kj]

btfc wrote:
“ Fact-Checking Idaho’s Wolf Eradication Law “


https://www.outsideonline.com/2422854/fa...b-121-bill

Good article. That's pretty much like I suspected. Makes sense Idaho Fish and Game isn't behind it. With all their faults, they've never really let the moaning of hunters and anglers influence them much. Must be purely political, I guess.