The dealer wants my car back

[Speedy]

Racer X wrote:
[quote=mattkime]
[quote=jonny]
Why do people want diesel? Even the modern cars are dirtier than gas.

I don't understand it either. Maybe they're people who drive 30k miles a year?
My partner's older brother commutes about 200 miles a day for work. He and 2 others carpool, and work construction. Makes really good money. Those not driving sleep.

And I had a co-worker 2 decades ago who did that as well. Same commute actually. He usually worked 4 10s though, so not quite as bad.
I used to commute 110 miles a day and the Diesel required one fill/week compared to my prior vehicle, a Taurus, which required a fill every other day. I worked long hours (occasionally 100 hours plus commute) and didn’t like spending time gassing up.

I’m not sure why the Diesel-gas price gap has increased to what it is today.

[cbelt3]

Diesel engines last a lot longer than gasoline engines and torque is awesome….

[Racer X]

cbelt3 wrote:
Diesel engines last a lot longer than gasoline engines and torque is awesome….

absolutely true, except the Olds 350 diesel. The stoutest gasoline engine Oldsmobile ever made.

[AllGold]

Racer X wrote:
[quote=cbelt3]
Diesel engines last a lot longer than gasoline engines and torque is awesome….

absolutely true, except the Olds 350 diesel. The stoutest gasoline engine Oldsmobile ever made.
Was that like the early GM turbocharged engines?

[Racer X]

AllGold wrote:
[quote=Racer X]
[quote=cbelt3]
Diesel engines last a lot longer than gasoline engines and torque is awesome….

absolutely true, except the Olds 350 diesel. The stoutest gasoline engine Oldsmobile ever made.
Was that like the early GM turbocharged engines?
No, the turbo motors were Buick V-6 231 motors. Once they went computer controlled and fuel injected, they were awesome. So much so the 20th Anniversary Pontiac Trans Am was Buick powered. I've met one of the principle design engineers for the turbo team, Dennis Manner, a number of times. It was a great loss to the automotive community when he passed.

The original GM 350 diesel was a barely redesigned Olds 350 gas motor built as a diesel. Horribly under engineered as a diesel. HOWEVER, if you converted it back into a gas engine and used Olds 403 heads, and a crank from an Olds 425, it was unbelievably indestructable.

[Speedy]

Racer X wrote:
[quote=AllGold]
[quote=Racer X]
[quote=cbelt3]
Diesel engines last a lot longer than gasoline engines and torque is awesome….

absolutely true, except the Olds 350 diesel. The stoutest gasoline engine Oldsmobile ever made.
Was that like the early GM turbocharged engines?
No, the turbo motors were Buick V-6 231 motors. Once they went computer controlled and fuel injected, they were awesome. So much so the 20th Anniversary Pontiac Trans Am was Buick powered. I've met one of the principle design engineers for the turbo team, Dennis Manner, a number of times. It was a great loss to the automotive community when he passed.

The original GM 350 diesel was a barely redesigned Olds 350 gas motor built as a diesel. Horribly under engineered as a diesel. HOWEVER, if you converted it back into a gas engine and used Olds 403 heads, and a crank from an Olds 425, it was unbelievably indestructable.
Interesting! Long ago I wondered if the conversion was doable given what a disaster the Diesel version turned out to be. But most of the cars were junked before my interest peaked.

I was getting my first tractor overhauled at Cummins back in the mid-70’s and there was an Olds getting a Cummins installed. It was to be used by a Cummins regional rep. On a much later visit I asked how it all worked out and the mechanic said it was a disaster as nothing was a proper match for the 6 cylinder engine.

[d4]

Current price of gas around me is about $4.85, diesel is $6.50. Diesel has been more expensive than gas for a long time. Over 10 years. Maybe 20?

Even most frugal people trade in their cars after about 12-15 years. Does it matter if the engine supposedly lasts longer? I guess it feels good to know..

[macphanatic]

Are people putting road diesel in them or use farm use or kerosene?

[Grateful11]

macphanatic wrote:
Are people putting road diesel in them or use farm use or kerosene?

It's illegal to run off-road, red dyed diesel with no road tax at least it is in NC, in a road vehicle. I've watched the Highway Patrol checking fuel tanks around here. It's a huge fine.

[macphanatic]

Grateful11 wrote:
[quote=macphanatic]
Are people putting road diesel in them or use farm use or kerosene?

It's illegal to run off-road, red dyed diesel with no road tax at least it is in NC, in a road vehicle. I've watched the Highway Patrol checking fuel tanks around here. It's a huge fine.
It is illegal in most states. Highway Patrol rarely checks cars - they tend to focus on commercial trucks.

Edit: I don't own a diesel and wouldn't do this.